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Old 02-18-2009, 01:20 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
WHAT THE FUCK! Gideon you must have gotten into your parents meds again while they are at work.

TBP not only DOES NOT take anything down ever...they brag about it on their damn website. What was it they posted in that section where they laugh at companies, lawyers, and law? Something like: "never took one down and never will"
name one take down request that fully complied with swedish law, the way that swedish law works right now there is only one way, and that would require setting up a private tracker, registering your copyright in sweden, making sure your tracker has no regional restrictions/user restrictions AND granting that tracker exclusive rights to distribute using bit torrent.

TPB would have to take down a torrent that included their tracker, but they could list the torrent (which points to the other tracker) and still collect all the advertising on the page serving that torrent.

IF they ignored one of those request they could be prosecuted for copyright infringement under swedish law.

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Gideon, please stop....I'm laughing so hard my eyes are tearing up. Those guys don't care about any laws. Hell, come to think of it neither do I. I'll break any damn law I can get away with. I'll drive faster than the speed limit. I may even do an illegal substance now and again on a Friday night. And you think those guys sit around like some kind of Saints pondering the law and worrying about being law abiding citizens?

Hell no! They are literally laughing at everybody while they cash those prepaid ad spot checks at the bank. Of course a communist like you would never understand that this is nothing more than greed and capitalism at it's finest. As much as I want to see them stop stealing...I will grudgingly admit that they found a way to make money for a short time.
your the one who wants to turn a government granted conditional monopoly into a government granted true monopoly and i am the communist.

i am a nashian free market person, i want as much competition, and i want the monopoly limited in the way it was intended from the begining.

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Not as much as some of the guys I know in this biz who figured out little loopholes to make money. But still a lot. Their time is limited to continue business as is though. So that's why I'm laughing about them having to pay lawyers and waste their time with court. It's taking away money that they are going to wish they had back when they are forced to start taking down almost all those torrents. And you just know that when Swedish law changes to reflect modern times...EVERYBODY is going to demand their shit come down because of them acting like assholes to the industry for the last couple of years.
the law will never change in the way you want it too, doing so will violate the fundamental principle of balance between fair use and your "limited" monopoly rights.
Granting you a sherman anti trust violating monopoly is NEVER going to happen.


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Right now, the judge there can only interpret the law. When that law changes, he will interpret it to reflect the new law. And there are companies and legal teams just circling those guys licking their chops and waiting for that day.

Guy is pretty smart though. When that time comes, if I were him I'd sell it to one of the big movie companies and get out.
unless they do something stupid like push this in front of a higher court under the current laws, establish in court a new fair use right. Which will not be able to taken away.
Remeber that copyright holders tried to get congress to change the laws to make "Time shifting" illegal after it was established, and none of them had the guts to do it then.
If access shifting gets established as a fair use right the same thing will happen again.
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