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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
if thats what you call the fact that i don't read and re-read every reply in a thread.. uhmm.. ok. i have other things to do.
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Then maybe you could go easier on the insulting people for positions they don't hold. Mmmmmkay
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
from my perspective thats very much what it is. as he was ramping up his campaign against hillary et al... his popularity was exploding... and he was saying nothing. he said literally nothing but "hope" and "change"... no one even know what that meant
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That's bullshit. If you think that's all he was saying, then you weren't listening, or you were getting a version that was filtered through a bullshit right wing source like Rush or Hannity.
At first, the dig on him was that he was too professorial, and too much of a policy wonk. Then later he started giving the "inspirational speeches" as a counterbalance.
He had a fuck of a lot to say about specific policies and proposals. From day 1 until the final day, you just weren't listening because you knew it was all liberal shit you wouldn't like anyways.
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
If Hillary wasn't a mean, calculating, cold blooded shrew... she could have stood a chance. If McCain didn't look like a muppet from a star wars movie, he might have stood a chance. At the end of the day, the good looking guy with the best line of bullshit won.
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Hillary wasn't the only one in the race. There were like 14 friggin candidates early on, they had like 20 debates altogether. There were plenty of people to choose from for the democrats.
You act like the reason Obama won was because people had nobody else to choose from. This was the most crowded field I've ever seen, on both sides.
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
Pretty much everything i dislike about government, Obama represents.
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Tough shit, he won, live with it.
If you're going to bitch about everything he does that you don't like, maybe you could give your bitch bone the day off when he does something you actually agree with....but instead you bust his balls about that too.
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
Some day, when you are the one actually creating these jobs, having your wealth taken and having employees constantly tell you what they deserve (which never stops no matter what you give) you will understand some of the other sides of these issues.
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There you go with your retarded fucking assumptions again. Any tax increase Obama levies will be felt by me the same as you. I am fortunate enough to be one of those top 2%. I own my own business, I have employees. I have also previously worked in a management position with a company that had union employees and had to follow union rules.
You're just as fucking pompous and retarded as 12clicks when you ASSume that everyone who votes democrat or supports unions "just doesn't get it" or must be a poor person looking for a handout, or whatever other bullshit you tell yourself so that you don't have to give the other side credit for having a valid argument for their position.