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Originally Posted by shimmy2
my closest partner is a ukrainian girl from canada, who also doubles as my personal trainer.i dont know the difference between russians and ukrainians but from my experiences with her and her family they are all very good peoples. anyone can get fucked over online so unless you've met them directly i wouldn't be so quick to judge the whole group
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Yep, there is no difference between Russia and Ukraine. Actually there was no such a country as Ukraine before the collapse of USSR. In Russian the world "ukraine" meant "outlying districts". For example, in Ivan Grozny times, today's western Moscow outskirts was called Ukraine. So the part of Russia called "ukraine" was constantly moving to West and haven't had it's own strict borders.
As about the ppl who live in Ukraine, so there are 2 different nationalities: Poles (western Ukrainians) and Russians (Eastern Ukrainians). Furthermore, Kiev - the capital of modern Ukraine was a great RUSSIAN capital even BEFORE of Moscow (there wre 2 such a great capitals of ancient Rus:
Kiev and
Novgorod).
So now the Eastern part of Ukraine is mother of modern Russia (note: Kiev) and the ppl who living there are fathers modern Russians. And the territory of modern Ukraine since the Ekaterina's times was called
MALOROSSIA (FYI: "Rossia: is Russia in English).
All the stupid nationalist talks about "occupation" etc are for absolutely silly people who hasn't learn the history. For anyone who want to find out more, I would recommend to read
Nikolai Gogol - the greatest Ukrainian writer (one of the most famous ones in both modern Ukraine and Russia) who was witting about Ukraine (MALOROSSIA) in old Tsarist times. Especially I would recommend everyone to read his book "Taras Bulba" about war of Rossians (modern Ukrainians and Russians) against Polish occupants.
Most funny thing, that when the movie "Taras Bulba" was filmed and shown in Ukraine, some brainwashed modern teenagers was almost shocked by the last words of Taras which he said before he was burned by enemies. The (these new teenagers who haven't learn the history) were unable to believe that Nikolai Gogol put these words into the mouth of Taras Bulba. But... when they were suggested to open the ORIGINAL BOOK and read it themselves, they were shocked even more
BTW, there is a small detail... Gogol was witting all his books only in Russian language.
What can I say about such a people? Learn your own history, because nation which doesn't learn its history will never have a future.