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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous
Yes those are good 'rules of thumb'. If you are doing something and it's working. Add 500 calories if you start a cycle. But for somebody who can't gain, 500 calories above what they are eating to maintain doesn't automatically mean they can gain muscle at the gym bud. lol its different for everybody.
Those guys eating 6000 calories to gain, it doesn't take 5500 to maintain. LOL if you think so, that's ridiculous.
It's 500 from maintenance level! You are right! My maintenance level is 2500, but if im going to try to add on some pounds at the gym, 3000 isn't going to do it for me. Genetics try to keep me around my typical body weight. you have to shock your body into growing.
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OK so your just so you know your statement is, you maintain at 2500 but anything over that up to 3000 you dont? well then wouldnt 3000 be your maintenance? I understand peoples bodies are different but what your saying is just plain wrong and doesnt make sense. how does one maintain at 2500, yet not gain at 3000? if your not gaining your not eating enough...cant put it any simpler than its been put. 6k cals to maintain while being a BBer is nothing man, i can easily put away 4k cals a day with ease. you just have a terrible lifters mentality and take short cuts. ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS
1. How long have you been training
2. what was your cycle, duration, pct
3. Height, weight, approx bf
4. I want you to POST your daily diet
5. Pictures...i dont care about genetics this genetics that, i want to see what you look like,...what couldnt u do in 6 months to a year?
6. Admit you took steroids because you were impatient for gains. you probably started with roids, and now realize how much hard work and dedication you really need, which is why your not "gaining" at 3000 cals...maybe its just not as FAST as youd like since you juiced too early
I know what im talking about I'm practically a personal trainer. you just so happen to be the only one in lifting history or rather the history of the world who doesnt gain weight over their maintenance...cals in cals out. and this SHOCK you speak of, shocking the body as you put it, is done with training not with eating. When your muscles demand more your body demands more food.