Originally Posted by onwebcam

Don't think it can get any worse huh? "any trained monkey can get us out" eh? I'm beginning to wish we did have a trained monkey in there right now. That is if it were trained by a moral and ethical human being. What exactly would it take for you to start to judge Obama? And what exactly are you judging him on? Change? If thats all you want an untrained monkey can do that. Might not be the result you wanted but I guess you always have hope. What happens if it's not the change you hoped for? Can we try the trained monkey afterwards?