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from a military point of view I don't think that the Russians lost the Afghan war; I don't think NATO will lose this war either, but in the long run this is a lost cause indeed
you can't go to another country and bomb them to democracy - hey, we just slaughtered 50 000 of your men, women and children, but we are your friends and you should do as we say
the much better way would've been doing something similar to what the Israelis did after the Munich games in 1972 and just hunting down Osama and whoever else planned 9/11
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