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Old 04-19-2010, 10:13 AM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Kane just stated exactly what I am offering. But as you saw in gideons response to me, he would rather keep fighting with me instead of actually doing it.

His only "offer" to me was to sign an agreement that would be a lose/lose for me. He wants me to put up all my work in "public domain" if he is able to do what he says.

So IF he could do it I lose, and if he can't I gain nothing. Sorry gideon, but that's not how business is done.
but your offer is an even worse lose lose for me
the only way you would produce a porn related proof like you want (build a company up to make more money then 2 years ago) before you would even consider paying me one cent would require me to stop taking paying jobs and work for free for someone just to give you proof.

our base package is only 5k flat fee (with a money back guarrentee)+ 10% of all revenue generated, the only condition if if you use the techniques i show you in the base after asking for the money back all the content so changed is put in the public domain.

you don't want to take the standard deal
you argue that i am completely wrong (therefore you would fall into the catagory of people who asked for their money back)

my biggest problem is that you can't be trusted the fact is you argued that product placement was impossible there was no way shape or form it could work in porn

yet you have the gaul to claim that your innovative/creative for copying waynes world product placement in your own video

and you still fail to give credit to me for pointing out product placement would work in a porn video.

your just as likely to pull the same shit again.

so working with you would be a lose/lose/lose deal for me

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And what kane is saying is 100% true. Music and porn are a vastly different sell. And in case you didn't notice...music sales are still decimated. That industry lost almost all the jobs it once had and is almost non-existant compared to what it was a few years ago.

I'm not talking about Radiohead being the first to pull it off and make money. I'm talking about an entire industry that doesn't exist for the most part anymore. Tens of thousands of jobs lost. Everyone from A&R people all the way down to cleaning companies who once had a gig cleaning the record stores that no longer exist. And everything in between, including all the bands who will never even bother to try to make it because there is no apparent incentive financially anymore.

That's why I posted and was willing to do REAL business if you could back up your claim in any way for our industry. If you can't then don't you think it's kind of foolish for you to make statements that you can't really back up?
so fucking what

the big studios have been ass rapping the content creators for years the 90% you pay all production cost out of your 10% deals are the reason why they are failing

independent artist can make more money by leveraging the new distribution schema because they are not giving away 90% off the top

guess what this industry has the same sort of ass raping going on

actual content producers like dean capture get what 2k per scene for something that would generate 30-50k for twistys

if dean can get 6k per scene who the fuck cares if twistys loses 30k.

that being said there are ways for twistys to keep making 30-50k per scene and still let dean make his extra 4k.

There are ways for them to increase their revenue by 10-20%.

but the real winners of such a shift are the small guys.

remember the vcr again. the biggest winners were the small porn companies who shot on video camera, the guys who shot on film went out of business.
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