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Old 08-13-2010, 10:02 PM  
Gouge
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Originally Posted by TheDoc View Post
Neither did Obama, his parents signed him up for school in Indonesia and picked that name for him to use in a School.

Yes it is... it's common in most States.

Source: "Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as "Certification of Birth", "Certification of Live Birth", or "Certificate of Birth Registration."[citation needed] The short form typically includes the child's name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child's parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances [22]. Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels"
Here is what the State of Hawaii?s official government websites publish about the matter:

QUOTE: ?The Certification of Live Birth is a legal document, but it is TOTALLY INADEQUATE when it comes to proving an individual was born in Hawaii.

The State of Hawaii DOES NOT EVEN ACCEPT the Certification of Live Birth as valid proof that an individual was born in Hawaii.

Im not sure how much more clear it can be, but in case you need a visual.

What are the different types of Birth Documentation in Hawaii
The constitution demands ?natural born? so as to mitigate the possibility of "divided loyalties"

Anyone can swear and sign the form to the registrar in Hawaii that they were a citizen of Hawaii and within the previous year gave birth. The individual gives the date/time of the birth and a document record is dually entered. Perhaps someone can inform as to whether you even need to show the baby! Doesn?t look like it from my read of the statute.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur...-0017_0008.htm

One can get a ?Certificate of Live Birth? with its minimal documentation. The date of birth can be any date the person enters, This document can be used to then establish citizenship for the purpose of getting a passport, but its lack of physically identifying information found on the "Birth Certificate" precludes it from being useful in proving "Natural Born" status.

The normal ?Birth Certificate? has uniquely identifying information along with eyewitness?s (doctor, nurse, orderly) and the specific location so that it is now verifiable and traceable.

CERTIFICATION



CERTIFICATE

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