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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Well it seems you don't have the back bone that the Palestinians have. They won't march off to where ever to please the Jews. Fighting with an army won't work, fighting with oil power will.
If the Arab World gang up and use their oil power do you propose the Jews should just pack their bags and move out?
Of course when you open your doors to a family of Palestinians, or donate a ton of money to them being resettled we will take you seriously. Or should they just Fuck Off to anywhere but near Winnipeg and not expect any help from you?
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I'm not sure where all this attitude is coming from Paul.
But okay, point by point, here it is: "marching off" and "having no backbone" -- well, would you say all the people from Kosovo who ran for their lives and later emigrated to Canada are all spineless cowards for moving away from their homeland in search of a better safer life?
Think before answering.
You put a lot of faith in "oil", maybe too much? If as you say all the Arab nations were to gang up on Israel in attempts to oust them from the ME I can tell you it would be the start of WWIII and in all likelyhood the end of all of us. The US isn't going to sit idly by, you know that. Neither would it's allies, the UK, France, Canada, AUS, etc. And of course then Russia and China and a few others would have to take part.
What a wonderful suggestion there Paul.
As to your last and most ignorant statement to me to date I'll say this: You obviously don't know Winnipeggers. During that aforementioned Kosovo crisis for example we collectively donated tons of aid money, items, blankets, etc. And yes, many people here opened their doors to regugees, not just here but all over Canada. I had a few of them in my computer training course back in the late 90's and gave rides to and from their home to a few of them on many occasions.
But as to the Palestinians, their situation isn't the same as that of Kosovo is it? They aren't all innocent refugees with no place to go are they? Perhaps if back in the 70's and 80's they had just left Israel alone things would be different today? I don't know, I'm asking. Perhaps if there'd been less fighting going on all those years and less suicide bombings and terrorist attacks we'd have a slightly different-looking map of the region today? You tell me, you seem to be the expert.
The one given that remains is that Israel isn't going anywhere. You either accept it and deal with them or you eventually start a war.
Or keep the petty bickering going for another 30 years, the Palestinians continually attacking and provoking, the Israelis nipping away more and more land in attempts to shrink the problem.
You seem to argue for more war. I'm arguing for peace. Your argument just perpetuates and advocates further hatred. Mine supports putting aside past grievances and the notion of getting down to finding more equitable solutions.
Personally I'd have liked to have seen Israel offer to let all Palestinians live within it's borders in the same manner they're accustomed to, as equal citizens of their country. But that's never been possible has it Paul? Why? Because of the hatred. How can you trust people who hate you enough to kill you? Answer is: you can't.
I gave you one snide remark at me Paul, don't let there be another.
Cheers. :D