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Old 04-09-2011, 12:41 AM  
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Originally Posted by Frank21 View Post
hell no.
.xxx is full of malware and virus.

Also they use tracking software in the age validation page wich they add to every site as well as controlling what you have on your website. No way dude i like to be in control of my stuff myself.
Exactly ..
In March they said on a panel that they would be scanning/spider all site.
They also said in PHX that they would not scan/spider site.. this was said by the same ICM rep...

If needed I can dig up the link to the audio (about 20 min long from March)
As well as the 2 hour video from PHX

They also said they would have an optin verified by flag/banner.. where they would cert. the sites that pass...

My take on it is...
1- pointing a .xxx to a .com comes with risks
2- pointing a .xx to a .com can also remove all the possible security they may place
3- They will need to control the billers
4- they will need to control or monitor the content
5- they will need to control the splash page
6- I see no tube site using this *Who would use .xxx for a non legal tube???
7- why would you open a store in a slum? After all this 1 of the ways it will be marketed like it or not.
8- A 2nd way they will market it is as a way for parents to block access. Ok Im all for kids not seeing what they should not.. But how can you market something as easy to block and limit the blocking to kids. *How many of your sales are to people in college in a bible belt.. And how much pressure would be placed by mom and dad to have .xxx access blocked for kids on campus.


This maybe a fucked up example but say little Johnny a 21 year old with a working clean Visa has been told about abc123.xxx or sees the ad.. wait he can't see the site.
1- you paid for the click or the webmaster did and the CPA is now just a little more.
2- frustration on a product that is an impulse .. little Johnny knows that tubes are free and not on a .xxx ... or option 2 say tubes also get blocked .. he will download it for free...
ITS NOT LIKE PEOPLE WILL GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO FIND A SITE TO PAY TO SEE...
3- Ok say Im wrong and little Johnny or anyone at all .. does go to abc123.xxx via a webmaster ad
and .xxx is blocked... He then changes the .xxx to .com and get to your site..

If little Johnny that likes to spank it to porn clicks on a link:
abc123.xxx/?nats_id=afasdfasdfasdf
do you think he will type
abc123.com/?nats_id=afasdfasdfasdf
NO
will that even work
NO... as the sites in NATs are not the same they use a dif NATs webmaster ID..

Will his cookie follow him from .xxx to .com NO *their is no cookie the page did not load*

Now on to billers.. I'm not naming names *nor do I know them*
But do you really think that company QW@R LTD that is doing shaddy cross sells and reselling/repushing user data, will not just hide the cross sale if told they can't do them from ICM and still just push the data anyways via the backend..

"Welcome to [email protected]
thanks for joining
*much lower in the welcome email /// if at all*
btw you are now also a member of asdf.com for free for 3 day rebilling at nine thousand euro a month..."

How many people have contacted your host let alone godaddy, moniker, names.com, etc to bitch about your sites or anyones cross-sales .. my guess nobody EVER..

AS for CP.. does anyone here have CP (NO) will anyone with CP buy a .XXX NO!
do they need to NO!!!!... They will keep doing what they do now.. Why would they change what they do now. What reason do they have ... NONE...

What gain will the fight on CP on line have from this .. NONE..

Ok I can keep going on and on and on on this
Are there some upsides... Yes I did not list any because the rule are not out yet and we have not tried it .. will I buy .. not for at least 12 month most likely never...

We all buy shit online.. anyone type:
abc.mobi into your phone..?
buy any trip from a .travel..?
anyone use a .job to hire anyone or even get a job?
search google for "Military" let me know what page the first .mil is on.. * stopped on page 6 because what user would go past page 6 let alone page 2.. And they have been out for how many years...

Spend your $60+ a URL.. even if it works out I may miss the bus on sex.xxx etc..
maybe in a year or 2 ... 5,000,000 urls will be taken, there will still be a few good ones..


I am left with the same question I had years ago ..
sTDL names cost more but where exactly is the money going.. $$$ in ads to tell people Hey you can block this.. Oh and btw there is 0% CP...

and..

would google change it's algo to block .xxx... hummm
well would they change it to push it to the top.. they didn't with any other sTDL
It's easier to block then to increase its value..

.xxx nofollow..
or
.xxx = adult flag unsafe.. *ya I know that is not real code*
But you have to admit it's easer to write then to change the algo to what would be needed to push .xxx up based on adult keywords.
When you think Google will not make a dime more for doing a big ass aglo change for .xxx
But the PR from adding extra function to it's safe search that takes a couple lines of code will be a nice pat on the back..

Last edited by PAR; 04-09-2011 at 12:47 AM..
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