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(WARNING LOOOONG READ AHEAD, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH THE READ)

Suesheboy, I THINK this will be the last time I bother to respond to you, no offense but all you seem to be doing is making wild assumptions and twisting around what I say to try and make more wild assumptions, We don't know eachother that's for sure, I have no clue what you do in this industry and reading your posts about me it's pretty clear you don't know what I do...

this is half correct, but even the best people in business make mistakes, no one is perfect after all. I took the fact that a major webmaster board (of that time) was trusting in the host for their forum, program and paysites and that was good enough for me to go with them.

I had fully managed dedi boxes there, & paid for offsite backups

I did moonlight design work for the company and spoke with the owner on almost a daily basis and I NEVER saw a single thing that would lead me to believe they were anything less then the reputable company they claimed to be.

I hired a coder to create my custom backend scripts who flaked and vanished from the adult biz. I ADMIT at that point I SHOULD have created a backup plan for the backends I did not and that's my fault, no question about it. But even the best ppl in business make dumb ass mistakes.

One more time though I DID have backups, multiple backups,onsite and offsite and I also PAID for remote backups and no amount of planning can cover shit like a fire, theft, or hardware failure, you don't know my situation nor do you know me.

Again you choose to either NOT read what I wrote OR you just choose to twist my words...

I never had the capital the BIG COMPANIES had, nor did I have ARMIES of affiliates the big companies have.

I know first hand that larger companies have THOUSANDS and thousands of affils, they pay people to sig whore, and bump all their threads, they hold contests and constantly push their name and brand, they have people who's job it is to post on ALL the boards in as many threads as possible, they skin boards, they take out full page ads in magazines, they sponsor events, do give aways etc etc I never was at that level and that is what I said. (And I'm not bitching about that actually)

I was a one man operation, with a few people who helped where they could, but at the end of the day I was the cook, dishwasher and server of the operation, I chose to spend my time building content, working with affils, and further researching my market.

Even after all these years, and interviews / writeups in AVN, KLIXXX, XBIZ many people still don't know who the hell I am, mainly because I did not spend all day posting on the boards (Again I'm NOT bitching lol)

Once again you speak on an issue you have ZERO knowledge of, I will not explain it to you either but the deal that was created worked for both parties.

Thank you for your blind wisdom on a perfect stranger, this thread has deff taken many strange twists and turns, what started out as a "fire sale" has now spiraled into a few armchair business coaches who think they know all about me even though they've never met me nor would they know me if they passed me on the street.

You with your touting "don't sell your content, it dilutes your value" that would be like telling a hosting company to NOT let people on their servers

I'm currently a content producer, I make and sell content to other companies, why on earth would/should I NOT sell my content.

Then when I mention I MAY restart my program (MAY being the operative word here) I get ppl telling me what to do and if I don't jump right on it I'm told I'm negative and I have a failure mindset

Then someone tells me to "enter contests" "Try online poker" (okay THAT was funny) etc etc etc I did not ASK for advice in this thread, (Not that I'm above taking advice) I did not ask anyone to save me by showing me the mistakes THEY THINK I've made past present or future, I came here, stated my situation and OFFERED A SALE ON MY PACKAGES, some of you (smelling blood so to speak) have swarmed the thread like sharks, OR have tried to turn this thread into an intervention lol.

As I've said before in the thread I'd be more then fine if 'clients' just paid their invoices, but since stalling and or not paying is becoming more and more widespread (In a few days OR Next Week seem to be this industry's new mantras) I'd rather STOP producing/selling content and just get a job working for a company.

I'd like to thank everyone who offered kind words and bumps, those who ordered (and paid lol) and those who offered mini jobs and opportunities throughout this thread.

I will close this out by asking a few questions to those who have chosen this thread to try and school me on HOW and WHAT I should be doing with my business model....

Do YOU run or HAVE you RAN your own Toon program or Toon paysites?

Do you have any actual knowledge of the cartoon market to begin with?

Do you KNOW what it takes to KEEP a member recurring month after month after month?

Would YOU promote a tiny wordpress Toon paysite running on a semi known processor who may or may not have stat issues (Last I read about Zombaio there were MANY issues with stats and tracking, and many did not "trust" them and wanted to WAIT until they were more established before risking their hard earned traffic on them)

Would you even promote a Toon rev share site over PPS these days, ESPECIALLY when you can promote a "SIMILAR" site WITH PPS (From what I've personally seen more and more people ONLY want to promote PPS which is one of the reasons I question even re-launching in the first place as a Revshare company)

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