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Originally Posted by harvey
so tell me, do you live in a wonderful place where life is fair, hard working ALWAYS pays (without a single exception) and poor people is poor because they don't work? I mean, in your wonderful place Asia, Africa, most of America (yes, I'm including US!!!) just to name easy to spot examples simply doesn't exist? Really? So tell me oh wise one, how do we get to your great beautiful la-la-land!
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You see... i'm not a socialist, i'm not a communist. I'm not a misguided dipshit who think's he's going to save a continent like Africa which clearly cant be saved AND doesnt want to be. The economic sun set on Africa with the departure of colonial rule. Just a simple fact.
I do have a grasp on economics and macro economics and fully understand that economies grow, wealth grows, opportunities grow, incomes grow and so on. 15 years ago in Russia, the average salary in Moscow was a few hundred dollars or much less. Today, its on par with the USA. How did that happen if everyone in the entire city is still wallowing in abject poverty with no opportunity?
There is no possible way to make everything fair and equal for everyone all the time. You are the one talking in absolutes.. not me.... I never said life is fair. I never said anything about "without a single exception" - which was a borderline insane remark to make. I never said poverty doesn't exist. I never said life is all about bubblegum, balloons and unicorns for all in every country on earth. Life is hard for people in any west african shithole just, as life is hard for inbreeders in the kentucky mountains. That doesn't change the fact that all it takes is initiative and determination to change that.
The sad thing is that people like you enslave people. You tell them they can't. You tell them that its not their fault. You tell them that without your help, they can't achieve anything.
Poverty exists everywhere. Even in the USA. In fact, the USA is the worlds greatest example of what is possible ... what an individual is capable of, for those who truly want it. People come here from all the shitholes you can name and then some and take advantage of every opportunity available to them and make a life for themselves, save money, import more family, rinse/repeat. If you can't see that happening all day, everyday, year in and year out in your own fucking back yard, there is no point in discussing whats going on around the globe as if you actually know or care.