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Originally Posted by TheSquealer
You see... i'm not a socialist, i'm not a communist. I'm not a misguided dipshit who think's he's going to save a continent like Africa which clearly cant be saved AND doesnt want to be. The economic sun set on Africa with the departure of colonial rule. Just a simple fact.
I do have a grasp on economics and macro economics and fully understand that economies grow, wealth grows, opportunities grow, incomes grow and so on. 15 years ago in Russia, the average salary in Moscow was a few hundred dollars or much less. Today, its on par with the USA. How did that happen if everyone in the entire city is still wallowing in abject poverty with no opportunity?
There is no possible way to make everything fair and equal for everyone all the time. You are the one talking in absolutes.. not me.... I never said life is fair. I never said anything about "without a single exception" - which was a borderline insane remark to make. I never said poverty doesn't exist. I never said life is all about bubblegum, balloons and unicorns for all in every country on earth. Life is hard for people in any west african shithole just, as life is hard for inbreeders in the kentucky mountains. That doesn't change the fact that all it takes is initiative and determination to change that.
The sad thing is that people like you enslave people. You tell them they can't. You tell them that its not their fault. You tell them that without your help, they can't achieve anything.
Poverty exists everywhere. Even in the USA. In fact, the USA is the worlds greatest example of what is possible ... what an individual is capable of, for those who truly want it. People come here from all the shitholes you can name and then some and take advantage of every opportunity available to them and make a life for themselves, save money, import more family, rinse/repeat. If you can't see that happening all day, everyday, year in and year out in your own fucking back yard, there is no point in discussing whats going on around the globe as if you actually know or care.
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so you're saying the same as me only that you think people from (say) some shit hole in Africa just need to work hard to become rich. And in between, that me and people like me enslave people
so, you wise guru of economy and macro economics, it's not (say) some Nike CEO exploiting kids in sweat shops, but.... ME!!!! Damn kids, they should work 24 hours a day to get free of my slavery and domination!
And tell me you Nobel Prize of Economy, why is that the same level of domination between individuals exists at state level? ie, what will happen if (say) Nicaragua develops a high technology industry? What if Argentina develops a high level nuclear industry or high tech agrochemical? (this is not hypothetical, I know what HAPPENED).
Last that I checked, both pro and anti socialist-capitalist-whatever positions accept and research the issue of industry outsourcing since it's an objective fact. But somehow, it eluded you.
Finally, why don't you explain to the kids who I work with everyday that not only they need to work EVEN MORE for those that enslave him, but, in fact, the ones that help them providing them education, opportunities, taking them out of the streets, drugs, prostitution, crime, etc... are the ones that ENSLAVE THEM!!!!
Don't embarrass yourself anymore, you don't have a fucking clue on what you're talking about oh wise economic guru
PS: btw, maybe you can tell the many people in US that busted their asses for a whole life and lost EVERYTHING due to your "beloved people that works so hard" that in fact they should work harder. Just go and tell that to them in their faces, I can assure you'll get quite impressed. To say the least.