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Originally Posted by CodeR70
Well, I was more trying to make a point how bad this stinks. It's seems to pass by all you guys who think it's a good idea to hire an "experienced programmer" for about $10 an hour before tax. In my book that can only mean 2 things, or you as a client get cheated or his developers. One way or the other, somebody is getting fucked over big time!
I do not understand why you guys keep supporting the "tube sites" of my profession. There is no way an honest programmer, who would like to have a normal meal at least once a day also, can compete with this (not even mentioning the $5 or less an hour from India you see these days).
A fucking power coder for just about $10, and that does not ring any bells???
PS, maybe the mods should move this to the theft forum or whats its name.
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well, owning a design company I understand what you mean, but on the other hand you have to keep in mind this:
1) Most coders I know BEG to make $1800 a month. I know many coders that charge high rates per hour but they're always trying to get a client, because they get no work
2) $1800 isn't top money, but it's pretty decent in many countries. Even in Europe.
3) $1800 in Argentina is a decent income, but once the outsourcing company gets their slice, it isn't a good salary, so I know I won't get the super coder with the super service. But, for what I need him/her, it's enough. On the other hand, Argentina's coders are rated between the best in the world and because of that, there was a lot of work and high salaries for them. Thus, everybody tried to become a coder and now there are way too many coders. Now I can get a computer engineer for $1800, as simple as that, so their price isn't out of this world nor too low
Anyway, like I said last week in a similar thread: just provide a good service trying to keep your prices competitive and clients will come alone... after paying the magic outsourcing company that charges 1/5 of your rate (or less) and then get empty handed as usual.