Originally Posted by TheSquealer

No, i agree that owners are one part of a multifaceted problem. Its all those who love pitbulls so much trying to continually make the argument that its just owners and dogs themselves are super wonderful and only eat cotton candy and dreams.


Oh.. .so the irresponsible owner freaked his dog out and caused to attack him.
Er.. ok. Thanks for the clarification. Lets just be grateful that one of his children wasn't killed had the 195lb animal chose to bite them in the head. Thank god.



Oh... here we are again. "A gentle breed". A phrase which again, implies there are meaner breeds. Of course, that wouldn't be Pitbulls. Never. That's just impossible according to those arguing your point.


I've never seen more irrational behavior that you people arguing for pitbulls. No one wants to kill them. Notice the choice itself is framed so irrationally "kill them all or do nothing". Thats absurd. No one is pushing for responsible ownership, licensing or training for owners. Seems like you would be doing that except you fear that any admission of a problem will somehow cause the dogs to be "killed" as you keep putting it.

Everyone gets that you love dogs. Everyone gets that you love pitbulls. They are being outlawed everywhere because you are incapable of both handling a rational discussion or making a rational defense. Basically, you sound like a bitch who is PMS'ing... Just changing the subject, talking in circles and ignoring facts.

As for me, I have a benefit in participating in this discussion. I am not wedded to either side. There seems to be some undeniable facts. There is a problem. The degree of the problem is in question. It does in fact exist. The dogs murder. The dogs murder innocent women and children. Some owners are assholes. Some dogs randomly attack. Breeding is a problem. Temperament is a problem. Having a nice pitbull that your kids love doesn't mean pitbulls do not kill kids.

BTW... just a completely random test. A highly educated woman (holds 2 phd's)... 50 years old that runs an entire school district in one of the largest cities in the nation just walked into my office. Before saying "hello", I bluntly asked her "what do you think of pitbulls". Her answer "i hate them, they are dangerous".

So blame the media all you want. The perception is the reality. Assume the perception is wrong (i don't see that as being true), it is still the reality. You are not changing that, you are basically just calling those people brainwashed and idiots - which means you will lose the argument every single time when it comes time to pass legislation, as you currently are.