Originally Posted by Robbie

The way I see it, is after watching what's happened over the last 3 to 4 years...
the only people who are profiting are the sites who allowed user uploads of stolen content and then deliberately removed the watermarks and started selling ad space to dating, cams, penis pills, etc.

I know what you think you know. But can you tell me one good example of somebody (an affiliate) who is somehow taking advantage of these sites and seeing great sales from them (and doesn't actually own one of the big sites)?

'Cause I see what my affiliates do in 2011. And it's about 1% of what they could do in 2007 for sales and traffic.

When I talk directly to other program owners it's the same thing. We are all generating our own traffic for the majority of sales in 2011.

What I'd like to see is a post that actually says something to explain how this great new system of making tons of money off of full scenes works for any affiliate that doesn't own the illegit tube or torrent or file share site.

If it's so great and so much money is being made...then where are all the affiliates? And where are all their sales? And why have so many people been fired from so many companies over the last few years. And why are the shows and conventions like a graveyard in comparsion to what it used to be?

Surely there should be a whole new wave of genius affiliates who have mastered the intricacies of this incredible gigantic money making machine called piracy and all the companies in the porn biz should be having the biggest year of all time in sales.

But what we see in reality is just the opposite.

I'd like you to point me to the affiliates that are making great money. And when I say "great money" I mean the kind of money that I made as an affiliate. High 6 figures to 1 million dollars a year.

Where are they? And if they are out there...how come every program owner I talk to is doing the same thing as me...generating their own traffic and sales for the majority of their revenue?

I'm being completely sincere in this question. In my opinion I can outsell anybody in any situation. (I would assume that all of you have the same attitude or you wouldn't be in the game). So instead of reading posts about all this greatness that's out there with these scores of affiliates who are just raking it in...I'm saying: "Where are they and why is the affiliate model on life support if this is true?"