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Originally Posted by Far-L
But it does take a smart judge to actually make a fair comparison. By not adding into your equation the program owners that are doing good sign ups and do not own tubes you kind of paint a lopsided summary of what has been discussed in this thread.
You and Robbie also seem to miss the point that was made that the big tubes obviously do run their own paysites; moreover, they don't manipulate their own tubes to give themselves better ratings, more exposure, etc. and still let the surfers dictate what is popular or not. So what you are doing is called sophistry and it is misleadingly mistaken for logic.
There are programs that are making money. Others not. But the fact remains that since the legit tubes operate as affiliates their job is to generate traffic and the programs have the job to convert it. That is a universally held truth in online affiliate marketing. Why people have an issue with that makes no sense to me at all but always those that have will be hated by those that have not and that is just human nature so I accept it.
If 1 x 0 is zero and 100 x 0 is still zero then no matter how many uniques one gets to hit a site the number of sign ups is still going to be zero if the content is zero.
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What I have been waiting to see are people other than the usual suspects who have spent the last year praising Manwin commenting in the thread and stating that they tried it and are now buying another luxury car or mansion based on what they are seeing. That just hasn't happened yet.
Endorsements from the usual suspects don't mean much to me because I don't see them as objective. Likewise endorsements from the bros mean little to me because we all know how there is this constant game of "I scratch your back, you scratch mine, bro" or "He's a top notch standup guy". For the last ten years this game has been used to feed one piece of bullshit after another to the industry and I think it's normal to get very skeptical whenever one sees it in play.
Take Ruseful's stats. We were all blown away by them. But then it comes out that he's pretty much like an employee of ThePornTubeGuy and together they have basically tagged teamed the topic into one big self promotion to content owners. I'm not saying he's dishonest but how stupid are we here? Whether he is sincere or not it just isn't an objective test.