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Old 04-20-2012, 02:46 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Far-L View Post
Yes, more people that claim to have "amateur" standing in stark contrast to what we offer does bring us biz, the same way it is not unusual to see McDonalds and Burger King right across the street from one another. Take the content you produced and call "amateur" for example. I would be happy for people to see your version of amateur and compare it to Homegrown Video's and let the fans/buyers/surfers decide.
Having two shops selling a similar product opposite each other is good. Having 20 paysite owners giving the product away next to each other isn't the same. However as you point out few will have content as great as yours and fail. So you're just talking up them submitting to get more traffic you'll get more sign ups from and they will fail. Thanks for the info.

Your brother took my wife and I out for lunch in an attempt to buy the license on the Astral Blue content. They couldn't meet my price. Never shot amateur video here in CZ.

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Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and scores of other billionaires share their advice readily and even invest heavily in their competitors as well. Do they worry that it will hurt them? No, they realize how it helps them.
Trust me Homegrown is no Microsoft. Do they share patents and customer lists as well?

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You claim your market was killed by cheaply produced inferior product. I claim my success is based on cheaply produced superior product and excellent service and a strong community.
No I claim my market was destroyed by people spending a lot of money giving porn away for free. and couldn't afford good content. You do buy in cheap though.

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I have to ask because you are making so many big assessments about everything and I find myself disagreeing with so much of it... How is your paysite doing these days? How many DVDs did your company manufacture and distribute last year? How many licenses did you do with cable and satellite? It would be a big help to separate the first hand knowledge from the hearsay and hyperbole.
I've been retired for 3.5 years. Still making money though. And as a set shooter. I will ask you how many solo girl scenes did you ever buy for $3,000 out right? I went where the money was best.

you put your foot in it with the first part.

Either the submitters are going to do well and encroach on your territory or they will fail. You'll pick up some extra traffic and maybe sign ups.

Ratios between people on a tube site and people buying a membership suck. We all know that and there's no dispute on it. So every new submitter has to bring for instance 10,000 surfers to get an extra sign up. Or he takes a sign up from another site.

So using that figure and it could be more or less. 100 sign ups a month will require 1,000,000 new surfers. 100 sign ups = $3,000 a month. It's great if you can tap into this source of traffic, once in you don't need lots of other people coming in and grabbing some of the traffic.

Of course filling the Tube with crap porn will bring more traffic, without a loss of sales for those with the very best content. Which I see Far-L has pointed out.

Last edited by Paul Markham; 04-20-2012 at 02:56 AM..
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