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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous
Bryci was launched in 07 or so. No later than 08. And yes thats one of the more recent bigger sites, shows yeah something when somebody asks for recent and a 2007-2008 site is what you can name. Since then Katie Banks, Talia Shepherd, AvaDawn, etc haven't done much. I mean they do decent and he knows what hes doing. But as far as numbers youre talking about. Nope.
10k is gross a month, not net. Net is 7k a month.
So its either she gets 3500 a month which is 40k a year like i said.
OR
4-5k (which isnt even likely) a month with these costs:
wowza - 50-60 a month
security software - 50 a month
hosting - 300 a month
full time webmaster help - 1500-2500 a month (pay for a webmaster to do everything for you for a couple months until its up, who would that be? that wouldn't ask for a percent? after doing all the ground work and if you did, it sure wouldn't be cheap. i dont believe this model who was screwed from payments has crazy capital to be paying employees outright before its launched)
affiliate software - 150 a month
her paysite design - 1500
her program design - ?? she could make a default ugly one with no customization
integrated tour - 1000
cms - 50-150 a month
editing of 30 sets and 20 videos to start - from my experience, more than 1k for sure
on top of this, paying her photographer.
Then build up an affiliate database that is 50 percent of other peoples.
Sorry how much is she left with?
Given 7k is for the best programs out there, lets say this non existing webmaster gets her 5k a month (also not happening) - that'd leave her with pennies
Established programs can profit more easily with solo paysites because the costs are lower because they run multiple girls and are already paying for things such as cms/affiliate software/hosting, etc etc
That combined with a large established affiliate database makes it the right option for all models
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This is a very interesting conversation, even though we totally hijacked this thread, which makes me feel bad. But I am always very much interested in things that you say since you are one (and probably only) of the successful solo webmasters to come along in the past couple of years. But I do not agree with your numbers here at all. Why would she be paying $150 a month for a CMS or affiliate software? And if she is paying that much, why does she need a full time webmaster AND someone else to edit the pics? What would the webmaster even be doing then? Not taking pictures, not updating the site, etc.
Like I said before, I would help her for free. I agree with what Mutt said about the majority of bigger solo affilate webmasters would just find out about her site. It doesn't take much to send them an email. She's not a model who has to build a name for herself, she already has that. I would like to promote a site of hers that would stick around and not be dead. And she seems to want to do the work involved, it's very rare to find that. She probably just needs some help with the technical stuff: installing scripts, implementing a design and having an easy way to update the site on her own.
I also think part of the reason solo sites today don't do numbers like Nikki, Tiffany and Kate did, is because most models coming along today aren't like those girls. Do I think even those girls specifically would do as much business today if they just launched? No, of course not. There's a huge economic downturn and rampant piracy and MFC. But it is very difficult to facilitate any kind of growth without those kinds of models.
I would also like to see what kinds of numbers Mutt's projected sites do. I am at a crossroads here myself about opening something new or just continuing to refine what I already have going. I am just waiting for him to open them...and waiting, and waiting
I think both Destiny and that Carlye model would do excellent business under his watch. I think both your sites are great, too. I mean you ask me to name sites that have opened in the past two years, there really isn't even that many.