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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous
I must ask, instead of making such demands as everything being in your name, how come instead, you dont simply have proper contracts in place that guarantee you your percent of net profit?
You have to remember, programs are the ones who make you well known, a hot interactive model helps. Programs are the ones who offer a rare service, theres a handful left who are capable, want to know how many girls would be willing to shoot nude photography? I have high standards when it comes to models appearances and it still doesn't take me very long of looking to find a new model. Photographers come to me with them quite often
Autumn Riley is one of the biggest models in the past few years, shes made the top 5 in a couple sections on missfreeones, she was the top searched on freeones for her first year. She hasn't been involved since before her launch. never interacted with a single member.
PrivateSchoolJewel ended cam shows, guess how much sales dropped, not much.
People overvalue interaction a great deal. I can understand why. But its simply not the truth, its a help. and not even close to giving the model the rights to call the shots and have ownership. given that the model could walk away with a rare service at anytime. a service that lasts the life of the models adult career
And without the marketing of programs, they dont even add you on facebook, twitter.
(besides the mfc visitors, who see you naked for free and aren't exactly the highest converting of crowds when it comes to paid memberships, more are likely not to rebill considering your on cam for free most days)
Those revenues you get on MFC, which you spend a decent amount of time on, doesn't even factor into the percent that the webmaster might get out of the partnership. So do you still think your interaction makes your part equal? Very few people and all models think MFC is a great help , like im sure you believe since you do it but most programs wont let their models near it. And definitely the ones i talk to who are still going strong wouldn't.
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No worries, not bashing me at all! I 100% agree with your points.. and since I am a woman who believes in fair business, I of course will put something in writing to provide security for my new partner/webmaster. I of course am not going to expect 100% from someone with limited options. I'm simply reversing the roles that majority of this industry is abiding by. I the model wish to own all the contents on the site as well as the domain and brand. With that I take on full responsibility that comes with those rights. I do not see what the problem is? Why is it such a foreign concept to grasp that the model own what is inevitably theirs, and still pay out % for duties not capable of preforming? Just because the President of the company micro manages and in essence "runs" a business, does not give them the authority to say have ownership... But of course they are still granted authority and generous compensations..
I believe in playing fair.. webmasters will be compensated just the same as any other webmaster.. And of course, being that I am not a total idiot, I am aware that something will need to be put in place to assure them my responsibilities will be preformed in a professional manner. Since the site will be mine, there already is a certain level of assurance that I will not be leaving anytime soon, but a contract of some sorts will be presented for the obvious security.. I am very big on incentives and if you do well to me, I more than return the favor
I do however think it is very bias of you to label models as not putting in the grueling hours.. Majority of webmasters if not all, have numerous solo sites so the hours could get intense, no doubt.. but we the models also have other professions that require hours as well. It is highly unfair to make references that models have a lighter work load than webmasters..
I will not get into a debate on who or what is more important when it comes to the technicalities of what makes a site successful.. but tread lightly when you say that a model's interaction isn't a big factor. I personally beg to differ being that I believe that majority of my "success" in this business is based on that quality alone
I will not go into detail on what all i have "sacrificed" to get where I am today.. but it doesn't always take loads of cash to get where you are.. but that being said, I too have footed the bill as well. With out offending anyone, I honestly believe models that are in a position of wanting to be involved in more of the business aspect of their brand, should and encourage them to do so. It isn't for everyone and yes some models are content with doing shoots and getting a pay check. After years of sitting back letting others profit from my images, I finally am choosing to be pro active and capitalizing on the services that I am providing for members to even want to pay 5 dollars to anyone.. Webmasters will and shall receive compensation for their services, and I will for mine.
It takes a village to run any successful business, so it is a very blind way of approaching things if one actually believes one has any importance over another.. Ya cant drive a car if it doesn't have wheels lol
based on personal experience I am choosing to be the sole owner in any new projects. I am not making demands that are impractical. I am simply wanting to be the owner. You mentioned the model's interaction alone does not give them the rights to call the shots...? How about the fact it is my nudity, reputation, and sacrifice of potential careers in the future? Not to mention the man hours that are invested behind the scenes with member chats, marketing, emails, photoshoots, editing and so forth. Yes this is a profession I choose and genuinely love. But this has become more to me than just "easy money". This will not last forever, and I am prepared to take authority and making this more of a career. I believe in my brand more than anyone else probably ever will, that is enough reason alone for me to find it completely appropriate to be the sole owner.
Webmasters are important and needed. So I will be hiring such
Without sounding rude, I wont go further with any more discussion or debate in relevance to webmasters vs models lol because it is an endless battle LOL.. I will elaborate more to those interested in doing business with me ;) All I will say is I do realize the importance of webmasters and of course models... But I am in a position where I personally am ready to move forward to an even bigger role than "talent"