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Old 09-06-2012, 05:31 AM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
The real question is: Was the number of attempted filibusters a result of Dems shutting the Republicans out of the process and trying to shove through legislation without reaching across the aisle?

Because if they had successfully gotten the Republicans on board then there wouldn't need to be a filibuster. Right?

I read these kind of things and try to figure out how and why they happen. You got to be careful not to put all your faith in either sides propaganda.

Fact is...apparently in the years between 1999 and 2006, the house and Senate leadership did a MUCH better job at reaching across the aisle to Democrats and getting them to compromise instead of filibustering.
I'd say that Reid in the Senate and Pelosi in the House both have shown their huge ego's and unwillingness to work with the other side of the aisle.

If I were Obama I would blame those two clowns first for fucking everything up for him.

Then if I were Obama I would blame myself second for not picking up the phone and twisting some arms. Everybody on BOTH sides have said he does not do that (people like Clinton, Reagan, and even Bush were masters at LEADING by reaching out personally...Obama is horrible at it)
Has nothing to do with Reid and Pelosi. Their goal was to make him a one term president since the day he got in. And they did everything they could to do it and it was screw the country.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08...dget-deal.html

"Mr. Ryan’s enormous influence was apparent last summer when Representative Eric Cantor, the second most powerful House Republican, told Mr. Obama during negotiations over an attempted bipartisan “grand bargain” that Mr. Ryan disliked its policy and was concerned that a deal would pave the way for Mr. Obama’s easy re-election, according to a Democrat and a Republican who were briefed on the conversation."

Jeffrey Liebman: Republicans Are Blocking Obama's Jobs Plan
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...344765926.html
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