FreewayRick

By the way, do you have any reference for that statement?

At least in wikipedia it is clear that in Russia porn is illegal, no exceptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian...hy_and_erotica



My point is that a country that bans porn production is not democratic, at least not in that regard. Every democratic country allows porn, every undemocratic country bans porn, that is basically a rule.

Of course I know that Ukraine is not in EU.


Yes you can, and that was my point. Woodman did it in 1995, when the circumstances were much more difficult than now.

Is it safe, or particularly wise? Probably not, but my point is just that it is possible.


Yes in muslim countries the penaltys can be huge.

I probably wouldn't neither. But it depends. Some arab countries are relatively liberal, in other countries westerners have gotten years in jail for simply kissing in public. It definitely depends on the circumstances.

And what about the arab spring? Aren't all arab countries supposed to be liberated now? Well, at least according to US-American Predictions...



Hm...a high corruption rate means the law isn't enforced. That's the definition of high corruption rate.



Ok, what did you hear about?



All I heard is that Ukraine has a huge problem with prostitution and human trafficking. Both are, without any question, illegal in Ukraine.

400.000 Women (in the last 10 years) have been trafficked according to the interior ministry.

http://www.rnw.nl/africa/article/pim...over-euro-2012


400.000, that is the same scale of the slave trade hundreds of years ago?

The problem is so huge that the FEMEN Organization was founded just to make people aware of it.

And this is the same country where producing porn puts you at high risk?


If that is really so, then ok.

For sure I can state that Pierre Woodman was asked to do a shooting in Turkey.
His response was that he doesn't want to risk it, because porn is illegal in Turkey. He said the only countries he is willing to risk it are Russia and Ukraine...


It is an actual quote:

"
Thanks but it's against the law to do porn or casting there and now I'm too old for that kind of game. Russia and Ukrain are the two last places where I take some risk...

PW
"

http://www.woodmanforum.com/with-pie...key-t3774.html

So with all due respect, I would place Woodman's opinion higher than your opinion (or basically anybody's opinion).



And what about the most famous porn actor in the world? Rocco Siffredi has been shooting in Russia for decades. And remember, 10 years ago the situation was not as "clear" as it is now. I don't believe the Russian Authorities are that incapable...if they wanted to arrest him, they could arrest him.

This was my main point. There is illegal and ILLEGAL.

Child Porn, well that is a completely different crime. I think luckily in Russia this is ILLEGAL. This means, it is illegal on paper, and people go to Jail for it in reality.


Adult Porn in Russia, well you can actually find adult model agencies in Russia through Google. How about "adult model agency moscow" ?

You can also contact several content sellers from russia on gfy.com


Are russian authorities that stupid and incapable? I don't believe that. If they wanted to, they could crack down on porn immediately. But it is simply tolerated, a case of illegal.



Of course, inmates are treated like garbage in these countries. And I agree that you definitely can't buy your way out of everything.


On the other hand, I'm not aware of a single western adult pornographer, that did significant jail time in Russia or Thailand.

Please state if you know of a specific case. Pierre Woodman and Rocco Siffredi have money and thus could be a very good target for law enforcement in Russia. Both have shot dozens of videos there. I never heard that they have even been stopped.

Even the guy from creampiethais.com doesn't count, because he only did several days in jail. Obviously his site is running and has been updated all the time since this incident.


And one other thing to think about:

In Europe and the Western World, Women's rights are relatively high. It is no problem for a woman to allege "this person raped me" and then cause at least a lengthy trial.

The most famous case of that was Mike Tyson, a boxer from USA. There also was a recent case in Germany. In that case, the accused guy did not get convicted.


Cases like this are not possible in Russia, Thailand.

It was exactly for that reason that Woodman started to shoot "secret" hidden camera videos, to protect himself from these kinds of lawsuits.


What could stop a woman from filling a law suit, because a "scene was too hard" or "she has been taken advantage of"?

You can't file that kind of law suit in Russia, Thailand, etc. because Porn is illegal in the first place. It would be like a drug dealer who goes to the police because the drugs were stolen.

This Issue also played a role in the conviction of Max Hardcore, a Porn Producer from USA. Among other things, it was alleged that he did not inform the models correctly about how rough the scenes are.

If Max Hardcore did what he had done in Russia, I'm absolutely not sure if he would've been sent to jail. Again, women's rights, worker's rights, or even human rights, are all much more developed and much stronger in western countries.


Of course, the risk is there.

Is the risk very high? I don't think so. I know producers who shot in Ukraine, I never heard about an arrested Porn Producer in Ukraine. Pierre Woodman's view confirms my view. If there is any expert in the world, I definitely believe it is him.


In either case, if the thread starter produces in EU-Country, he will be completely out of trouble.