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Originally Posted by spazlabz
Of course MSNBC is much better, much more fair and balanced and has a ton more journalistic integrity than Fox will ever have...because I agree with them 
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I agree with them also -- but I also think someone like Rachel Maddow is smarter than most of the nitwits on Fox combined.
Look at the left and compare their pundits with the right. Jon Stewart basically destroyed Bill O Reilly in that "debate" they had online. If you want any proof that Bill O Reilly can't hold his own when talking to someone who has facts and intelligence on his side, then watch that. He was owned at almost every turn by Stewart. All O reilly could muster up was the stock right-wing platitudes.
Bill Maher always makes Republicans look stupid on his show, and it's not because he's bullying or talking over them. He calls them on their bullshit, and they don't have an answer that resonates most of the time.
I'm not trying to say you're defending those Fox assholes, just maybe giving them too much credit.