Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie
Phil I disagree 100%
There are PLENTY of mainstream Hollywood movies with rape scenes in them.
Never heard on any rapes being attributed to them.
It's called "fantasy" for a reason.
Sylvester Stallone "KILLED" hundreds of guys in RAMBO. Never heard of any killings attributed to that.
As for the CP stuff...I don't know. Maybe you're right. Not sure if there is any way to have an actual scientific study on that.
And as for the "presence of a gun facilitates rape". Yeah, and so does a guy simply outweighing a girl by a hundred pounds. Or a guy with a knife. Or just the fact that a guy has two arms and two fists.
EDIT: FIFTY GRANT MERCURY'S SWARMING IN A ANTI-FREEDOM NUT FRENZY TO KISS THE GOVT'S ASS
|
Robbie, on the guy simply outweighing the girl, being stronger, having a knife, I completely agree, any one of those and 100,000 other things can facilitate a rape, or other crime for that matter. I don't think the logical anti gun people think guns are the only problem, the only evil, we all know there are 1 million ways to die, infinite items that could be used as a weapon, I don't want to be anti gun, I just feel the other avenues have been exhausted.
the original argument I responded to was that porn does as much to cause rape as guns do to cause murders, and that is 100% false. My response aimed to show that while the presence of a gun certainly facilitates a wacko to commit murder, the presence of porn does not facilitate a sicko's act of rape and I am right.
again, I admit 100% with all you gun lovers, the common theme here is not guns, it is mental instability and that is the issue that is most prevalent in the United States.
I want you guys on both sides to think about the following, both gun lovers and gun haters, please for 5 minutes forget about guns and think about this:
1) 26.2% of American adults have been diagnosed with a mental disorder, that's more than a quarter of you.
2) Those individuals have 3 options, do nothing, medicate, or seek long term professional mental help
now, explore the options.
Do nothing (no help) well we can all guess that these are the worst offenders, but no, when you do nothing, you live with your disorder all the time, you are used to it, it is always with you, and although you might be at a higher risk of loosing it and fucking someone up, chances are it will have as much to do with passion and the moment and the few of these crimes that are committed by people with no mental disorder, and those are few and far between.
Medicate (the band aid solution) Medication for a mental Disorder although pricey, is most often covered by medical expenses and ends up costing the family a couple hundred dollars out of pocket a year, for those with no coverage, it might be more like a couple thousand.
Professional Help (the only real solution) first of all professional help for a mental disorder is hard to get, this is not the favorite area of shrinks when they get into the business, as it also exposes them to risky situations. Secondly, the majority of all benefit packages in the US contain absolutely no coverage for seeking the help of a psychiatrist. Thirdly the average person with a mental disorder is recommended to see a psych 3+ times a week, at an average of close to $120 per session, that's $19,000 a year out of pocket.
so I may think guns should be banned, and you may think not, I may think guns are a problem you may think not, but what is the real issue here, although I think the quickest solution is to get rid of as many guns as possible, I can agree that at the root of this, it is not a gun problem, it's more like what Frank keeps saying, I just won't be a dick when I say it.
your government forces everyone who is not rich to put a band aid on their potentially fatal wounds instead of sending them for surgery!