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Originally Posted by Relentless
Now let's look at the much more realistic narrative. A kid born to a couple poor parents is likely raised by one or neither of them while they both work full time jobs. He goes to a subpar public school in a poor community and puts up with gang violence and a culture of educational apathy. If he wants to work hard and get a job, there likely are few or none available for him anywhere within his potential commuting distance.
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Is this person's fingers broken? Can they not read the internet and make money the same as many mainstream and adult webmasters? Not everything online requires you have hundreds or thousands of dollars to get started. Sure, you're going to trade off your hours in free labor for the cash you do not have. But it can be done.
I am sure he can be just as unhappy peddling porn as he would working at McDonalds or working a paper route. The point is, there IS OPPORTUNITY. Many simply see it as "beneath them" or assume because they have government hand outs, they have a "choice" on whether they would like to contribute to their own well being and society.
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If he has the grades to get into college he has no life experience to prepare him for it, no support system to help him through it, no financial cushion and is immediately saddled with more student debt than he can possibly repay.
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Right here is where you run off the rails champ. He is getting government hand outs in guaranteed financial aid. At what point does the gravy train end, and it fall on to them as an individual to carry their own weight??
The government is supposed to give them guaranteed financial aid, and the opportunity to better themselves, plus give them a well paying job, pension, health benefits, etc.? All at the compliments of the tax payer? When does YOUR RESPONSIBILITY in life actually kick in?
When I was in college, I was taking 18 credit hours a semester, working at the mall 30 hours/week, as well as station manager at the college radio and all of the responsibilities that came with it, plus holding down two DJ shifts. Which looking back, I have no idea how I managed it all and remained sane, but I had to do it as it was not a choice. No thinking involved. I wanted to make sure I did not have to ever work manual labor, and would have a better opportunity after college.
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Originally Posted by Relentless
Now he graduates into the worst job market in decades and finds he is unable to get a job that pays more than his basic living expenses cost. His chances of eventually climbing slightly out of that are very small... his chances of climbing far out of that are even smaller.
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He can self teach himself design, html, and shit of that nature just like I did when getting started. You have to WANT to learn, and spend the time doing it. Trial and error, refining, and so forth. Again.... at what point does the responsibility to CARRY YOUR OWN WEIGHT start exactly? Once you have your cushy job, pension, health benefits? Or at that point, you will still want some additional hand outs before paying back into the system. It is never ending.
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Originally Posted by Relentless
Conversely, there are plenty of people in this country who have never worked a single day in their lives. They are living on trust fund accounts and pay 0 taxes on their income because it is 'invested' in tax free assets or schemes designed to utilize loopholes. 100 Million dollars in US Treasury bonds goes quite a long way... generation after generation.
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Wrong again toots. However the money was made the FIRST TIME it was taxed. Meaning, if their father made it, or they made it, whatever took place to make the "trust fund" in the first place. The money was taxed at the time of creation. The government shouldn't be able to tax, and tax, and tax some more that same exact money 10 different times just because it was passed down.
As for the tax rate, you said everything
over $50,000.00 taxed and it would be everyone paying. Sorry sport.... That is not everyone paying into the system. That is once again only 'some' paying into the system. When I say a flat tax and EVERYONE is paying their FAIR SHARE, that means whether you're at $25,000.00 or 25 million you're taxed at the same 15%.
