Originally Posted by Rochard

Your right. Most of these cases are very old, and even then you can't really say that it was "our goverment". I read about one of the cases last night, the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, and it wasn't "our government" but instead a program started and run by three doctors. There is a staggering difference between three doctors and a government wide program.

The Tonkin Gulf incident also raises questions. No one has come forward saying "We are ordered to pretend we were under attack" and there is no proof that this happened. Seems to me it was the Navy firing on radar targets they couldn't see with their own eyes, and may or may not have existed. It's very common for soldiers, etc, to be firing at nothing out of fear.

I'm not saying our government can't do wrong - I'm pretty positive some of the stuff our government does in the name of "protecting us" would scare the piss out of us. But these items aren't any of them.