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Old 10-06-2013, 12:27 PM  
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Originally Posted by ilnjscb View Post
Robbie, dude, you are a smart guy and much respect to you, but George Bush did fuck up the country.
I know he fucked us up by escalating the imperialistic nature of the Federal Govt.

Invading other countries, etc.

But that isn't what brought the economy down at all.

It was the housing market crash that destroyed the economy. Like dominoes falling.

Bush definitely fucked up when he invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. I think history will look back on what the U.S. has been doing since WW2 in a very, very bad way.

Couple of weeks ago on "Real Time", Bill Maher ran off a list of countries that we have bombed and killed people in since the end of WW2 (which was the last real "war" that we ever fought...we haven't declared "War" on any country since then).

The list and the numbers of people we have killed are downright horrible.

And Bush cheerleaded us right into Afghanistan AND Iraq.

But don't forget: The Democrats were right there with him in the beginning. You can go to YouTube and find all of them making speeches saying that Iraq had WMD's and we needed to invade and take him out...including Hillary, Pelosi, Reid as well as the Republicans.

But the economy collapsing is what we are talking about now.

And if it's just the deficit that caused it (it wasn't), then we would be in a much worse collapse now
I'm looking at Treasury Dept. figures
U.S. National Debt 2009: 11,909,829,003,511.75
U.S. National Debt 2012: 16,066,241,407,385.89

And I saw on the news today that it's closing in on 17 trillion this year (2013)

No, the debt didn't destroy the economy (that may come later)...the housing market did. That's just an economic fact.
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