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Old 02-09-2014, 08:22 PM  
JayAllan
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Originally Posted by Shap View Post
I love that niche. I think it's great. There are a few things though that it needs. I think the price of shooting something like that has to come down. There are economics in porn that seem to hold true and once you step outside those parameters you get into trouble. From what I've heard the cost of producing the content far outweighs the return. If that continues then the market won't last very long. Similar to the glamour market. You need competition for a healthy market as competition helps make it justifiable for more models to jump in.

I haven't seen much of what competition have produced but x-art does a great job. The owners have it down. And it shows that they get the market and everyone else is trying to copy them. Attention to details are so important. Has to look real, has to look high quality, has to be super sexy. Hard to pull off when it is a hardcore scene at the end of the day.
Thanks for the response Shap

It is definitely a niche. I think the cost vs the return is not necessarily true. X-Art scenes cost around $7-9k and they are doing fine. Colette and Brigham are wonderful people and they know what they are doing. I think it is more a matter of how it is marketed to the proper end users. Marketing Babes.com to a bunch of Mofos and Brazzers customers will never work. A site like that needs mainstream exposure (porn for women or new tech invades high end porn etc etc) and targeted marketing to get the more discriminating buyers in there. AFAIK Babes.com was never branded as "High Quality Adult Porn" or "Couples Friendly" etc even though it was creatively designed that way.

I do agree it HAS to be hardcore and not at all cheesy but that is easy when done right. A lot of X-Art competition is very poorly executed. They focus on the blown out highlights, white rooms etc but miss on the actual quality of shooting and camera moves. The subtle nuances are what make it great and a lot of copycats just don't see them.

Incidentally, the price of high end "glamcore" will not come down anytime soon. It's already down to the hard costs of labor, equipment and locations. When I was shooting these types of scenes a few years ago (For SexSearch.com) the costs were well over $30k a scene due to the gear and lighting involved. So it is actually a lot cheaper now. That is because of the dramatic shift to DSLRs and low light capability. The hard costs involved are not going to change. You will always need more assistants, makeup, quality lights, and great locations to shoot it. Not to mention talented directors to shoot it. These are all fixed costs that will remain constant. Shooting in Europe of course mitigates some of these costs but the addition costs of moving high end gear and skilled assistants and makeup to these areas balance out most of the numbers. I have been shooting in adult for 21 years now and I have never seen more potential for high quality content as I do now.

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