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Old 11-25-2014, 04:36 PM  
bhutocracy
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Originally Posted by Jel View Post
well, I'd respectfully say vikingman is emotionally overtaken by his own experience, when it comes to this specific bill cosby situation. He has stated "even I have had women make false allegations against me. I cannot imagine what a celeb has to go through"

Not exactly a neutral, unbiased opinion on this particular 'case'. The reasoning they must be false allegations? Because he has met some crazies. Most of the posts in this thread are a mish-mash of emotion-driven viewpoints, rather than specifically looking at a certain criteria, unemotionally.

Should women be able to dress slutty, get drunk as fuck, as and not be raped? of course.

should men be able to get shitfaced, without an unwanted female sucking his cock when he wakes up? of course, despite what most men (and women) might think.

do some women have a change of heart and/or regret, and falsely cri rape? of course.

Do most sexual abuse victims of both sexes bury that shit and never speak out about it? of course.

Do some victims finally feel empored to come forward once they see emotional/mental safety in numbers? of course.

Is Bill Cosby guilty? 2 days ago I had no real view, but there are far too many coming out now, with zero financial gain to be had, so I'm leaning towards yes, and probably some of the 'victims' have convinced themselves a crime took place when in reality they were consenters, with their 'reward' unrealised, hence the self-justification. <--- todays opinion. But do I really know? Nope, or nor does anyone outside of bill and the people who have come forward.

What I sure as shit won't do is just disregard either side's version, based on a completely emotion-fueled guess
EXACTLY. Viking is letting his personal experience cloud the situation too much or is simply using it as a soapbox. The thing is, I 90% agree with him. False rapes are FAR higher than feminists claim with their bullshit 2% figure, it's most likely five times that. And now that two drunk college students rape each other when they have sex the issue has had the water muddied significantly.
A friend of mine had a crazy girlfriend. She was throwing plates and mugs at his bathroom door while he hid in the bathroom with his daughter and called the cops. When they arrived he didn't press charges or get a restraining order. The next day she took one out on him to fuck him out of going to a music festival he had expensive tickets for.
There are all sorts of unfair biased shit that happens against men in these situations.

HOWEVER. That shit can happen and Cosby can still be likely a fucking rapist. If it was ONE women.. or TWO women... and they were looking for money sure I'd be like.... nawww. At some point though (20????) you can't honestly and intellectually assume they're all cranks. Even being a dismissive shit.. let's say 10 are crazy whores, 5 are misremembering and 3 are applying today's rape standards to consensual 80's sex.. motherfucker still raped a couple of women! And really I don't think it was so few.
SOME women can be crazy bitches AND Cosby can be a serial rapist at the same time.. It's not an either/or proposition. And there is no use losing your sense of logic over it just because you have a knee jerk reaction to middle class college feminists (who have it better than half of all men) and their never ending whinging about whatever the latest micro aggression of the week is.
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