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Originally Posted by MK Ultra
us quitters do tend to get a bit holier-than-thou about it, no judgement intended 
I quit my 35 year habit cold turkey 4 years ago and it was honestly one of the hardest things I've ever done... hell giving up crack was easier.
I still feel the attraction, but it gets a little less every day. |
no offense taken
I feel the same way when I see peeps inhale fast food; like how can they put that ish into their bodies? I don't judge 'em but the point is we all have or hang-ups, and yeah they emerge from time to time.
For real though, I meant what I wrote with my congrats on 35 years smoke free-that's a tremendous accomplishment.
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Originally Posted by OneHungLo
But according to an analysis published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine, the exposure to formaldehyde from e-cigarettes, based on similar chronic use as tobacco, could be five to 15 times higher than from smoking cigarettes.
Sounds like it might be a good idea to quit those too.
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for sure ecigs aren't 'health neutral', most things that are chemically satisfying are in some way dangerous. like I mentioned above with a non-cartridge ecig I use it only when I need it, and inhale pure air to get the psychological pay-off most of the time. My point is that the inhalation of formaldehyde (which is present in real cigs anyways alongside tasty tar and tolulene) is better than smoking cig after cig just because it's a habit.
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Trading cigs for liquid nicotine sounds like trading aspirin for crack.
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you can say that but truth is after kicking the 'real thing' I can do a full Insanity Max workout plus a p90x kenpo 'cool down' without losing my breath. I could NEVER do that before. I'm not positioning ecigs are some sort of health supplement, they are a crutch for a toxic addiction for fuck's sake.
The point is I went from 2 packs a day to nada. That's a start. It will take me some time to wean down completely to zilch in terms of nicotine consumption but in the interim? I'd argue that it's better than not trying to kick at all. That's where I'd be without ecigs.
I appreciate your thoughts but I will quit everything nicotine-related without gaining an ounce. Ecigs are helping me do that.
The health risks (while real) are lower than they would be if I stuck to Export A's/Marlies.
I'll kick ecigs too, the point is that with ecigs it's easier to control/limit nicotine delivery as one moves through the process.
I appreciate the feedback though and you're both right; vaping is harmful too and non-smokers have no need for the product.