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Old 03-30-2017, 03:57 PM  
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Originally Posted by Scott McD View Post
So Farage made the EU fail ?? Or what exactly is it you are saying here ??
Farage was the spokes man, heīs meddled behind the lines, made the EU look bad by not making the deals he could have & now itīs all gone to shit with little ole England possibly going to be sitting alone in this big world

Heīs lined his pockets & now heīs going to line them more golfing with buddies in the US tea party.

Itīs all about the tyrants getting richer, not caring for the planet we live.

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Originally Posted by shiraz9944 View Post
Dead wrong you should look up facts before posting........ https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-m...ee-55-million/ Plus they allow the EU to dictate basically everything the UK does......and don't forget the rest of the EU has NO defense budget or ability to defend themselves at all. Not to mention the immigrant problem that is costing the UK billions more. If you can't see what's happening in the world right in front of you, nothing I can do to change your mind but the EU is finished, it's dead, a failed experiment. A noble idea and cause but poor execution and too many competing cultures. The entire world can't be wrong, brexit, Trump, Merkel is finished, Hollande is finished, the Nordic nations are next to leave and elected right wing parliaments. Without the UK, the EU loses about half it's money, the rest is basically Germany and with the Uk gone it will put even more pressure on them, it's over. Just face the fact it failed.

As for NATO, without it and the US's huge military the EU is defenseless without the UK. The US pays 25.1% of the NATO budget, Germany is next up at 12% and the UK at 12%, Pull the UK and US and the EU is defenseless and if you think you are safe from aggressive nations, ask the Ukraine about that. There is a deal in place now for the EU to purchase 1200 F35 fighters from the US which would help the money situation, and before people disparage the f35, it just completed a combat test against the best 4 gen fighters in the world and shot down 15 of them for ever 1 f35 damaged. I just wished we kept the F-22 in production.
Iīm not wrong, the spokesman of each country can negotiate what needs to be spent on each country & as shown already the UKīs considering removing some education needs to cover cuts, thereīs going to be more. The EU created a decent living for an average country, greed gets the better of many & now I think we will find greed will turn the UK into being a cesspit.

Also, Youīve posted lots about what and when with military tools, but most of the problems have come from the US, Russia & the UK sucking up behind the US, thereīs no need for defence is thereīs no problem to start with.

Also your percentages are incorrect.

oh, and if you notice, the piece of text on the article you posted above...

"The money we get back will be spent on things the government may or may not choose to fund if we left the EU. It’s not enough to look at the net contribution in isolation because what we get back isn’t fully under our control."

It doesnīt say an amount, I think leaving the EU was wrong. but hey, the UKīs done it now & thatīs that

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks View Post
Correct... we need 28 small and independent, but on a world scale, totally defenseless shitty tiny Euro-states... (that's including the UK)
Russia will give Brexit independence day a completely new meaning in let's say 20 years from now...
heīs not correct, the NATO budgetīs different from that...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.677d8aa29871

strange when you say shitty tiny Euro States, you may aswel create an Islamic group of your own, trying to divide the world.

This is the POV I am trying to put across. If it wasnīt for world wars, thereīs a lot more money to be put into education & the economy, the ozone, the world, one world we live in
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