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Old 05-31-2017, 09:37 PM  
kane
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I would say, Hillary. The reason is because of how the Democratic primary went down. Hillary and the DNC fucked Bernie Sanders and in doing so they alienated a lot of young voters. When you look at the demographic breakdown of the election Trump did well where you would expect him to and he did a little better than expected with Latino voters and middle class working voters. Hillary did much of what was expected, but she tanked with young voters. When Obama left office he was (and still is) very popular with Democrats, but Hillary is not. With the things that have happened in the last few weeks, it looks like Hillary is hellbent on still being involved with the party and with politics. She is toxic for the party, at least right now, whereas Obama is still seen as the leader of the party.
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