yeah I like shitholes...:-) btw. why even Odesa would be so bad? its very popular with tourists... I get that you dont like Soviet style??? lol, just like me
actually im in Lviv now...probably will stay here for 2 months...got plans to go to Chernivtse, but its like 300 km from here hm...is it worth it ? you are the second person that recommend it...I actually consider living in Lviv, Chernivtsi or Truskavets
Just saw Uzhorod and Mukachevo, strange cities, seem not like Ukraine at all.also visited Carpathians etc...
I may always live in Soviet Truskavets and go to spa every day :-)
as for Ukrainians in Poland...yeah I know...better to earn 500 euros in Poland than 3000-5000 UAH in Ukraine, right ? IT guys are different thing... there is also a bunch of tech ex soviet guys from cities like Dnipro or whatever that are technicians of some sort, like welders etc.
I rarely stay in Poland in recent years for various reasons...too expensive for what it offers and the mentality of the most people suck, I dont understand them that much anymore
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Originally Posted by Sid70
nobody wants to come there (except desperated Ukrs, for them Poland is like paradise these days lol)
It's too simple to put it that way. No paradise in Poland, it's better due to Poland a EU country, but I agree that low income jobs seekers get paid better than in Ukraine. Many share flats and send money back to Ukraine.
But speaking of IT it's not that easy to compare, with the Polish tax rate IT jobs for mid level and seniors pays less. Many come back or seek jobs in Germany. For many staying in Poland a European way of having things around might not look that nice, they lose their feelings of importance and becoming an average European at times make them miserable. But those who can accept the change it opens new ways in the future.
The only people that win in such situation are those that were already rich, ie: have flats for rent, have some business to employ cheap labour.
I spent more than 5 years in EU, with the prices that low in UA I could have bought another apartment in Kiev if I had stayed. I spent a month in Kiev this August, it was cheap, right, but it fades away fairly quick and harsh reality slams in. Basically, if we talk about low profile life it's cheaper in Ukraine but living a EU style costs more than in EU.
to go to somewhere on the black coast like Nikolayev or whatever.
Shithole lover? LOL, Every time i used to go to Crimea i was driving thru those town not making a stop. Fuck it. As of now I strongly believe even Odessa is fucked. I'd say Chernovtsy and Lviv are those to visit and stay in Ukraine.
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