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Old 10-10-2017, 06:09 PM  
kane
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I guess it depends on how you look at it.

Some will say he won because he appears to have gotten the NFL to start down a path where they will require the players to stand for the anthem.

Others will say we just watched the President of the United States use his power to silence US citizens who were exercising their freedom of speech.
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