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CDSmith · 08-14-2001, 09:25 PM

I've about had it with trading with scripted sites. I'm talking about the big intricate $1200 fancy-ass scripts that do everything but pick the webmaster's nose. I've run into so many problems with these trades I lost count months ago, plus I know literally dozens of webmasters that are now having serious regrets about making the move to scripted sites. Many of them are now making the move to UN-script.

Why? The answer isn't as complicated as setting up one of these damn things. I'll tell you from the perspective of the other webmaster first:

I get tons of webmasters asking for link trades as usual, only now it's "just send me hits and my script will reset at midnight and send you hits back tomorrow" or "come to my site and sign up for a trade". Of course in the good old days (early 2000) it was customary for webmasters wanting a link trade to actually PUT UP your link first, and then ask for the trade. This was common courtesy, a thing that I still do to this day.

Also, a lot of scripts "prioritize" your trade, so if you only start out making their top 25-40, you are what they term "low priority" thus you wait for your hits until everyone else get's theirs. I RARELY get back what I send from such scripts. OR, the script controls every outlink on the main page of the site, thus every link is a blind link, so all of my quality targeted hits go to them, and I get back all blind shit traffic.

The only good thing I've seen so far in scripts is that I've had about 2 dozen or so webmasters tell me how high my productivity level is. Like I didn't know that?

From the perspective of the scripted site owner:
There are scripts that also keep track of your "owed hits" and some of these scripts seem to operate in the minus at all times, no matter how big your site is or how high your quality is. Strange, I don't recall some of these sites ever having much problems with their owed hits before the script.

Script problem 2 -- what about trading with another scripted site? Sometimes both scripts are set up so that the other must initiate the trade, and since neither is about to send any hits to the other first, guess what?... that's right, no trade! I had a good laugh when I first heard that one. The problem is that many many scripts are designed to "sit back and wait for hits" before a trade is initiated, and some are programmed to reset to a new trade every day. Now, what if I were to email any of you and say "I'd like to trade traffic with you. Just Put up my link in a good spot, send me lots of hits and sometime in the next 12-24 hours I'll start sending you hits back" -- you'd tell me to go fuck myself with a swiffer wet-jet for fuck sakes. What makes you scripted site owners think that guys like me are any more willing to put up with this shit?

Some scripts have problems tracking hits from freehosts for some reason. Why am I not surprised?

Bottom line, I believe that to all concerned, scripts are usually more trouble than they're worth. I've honestly only had a small few trades with scripted sites that were productive in BOTH directions for any meaningful length of time, which is sad considering the amount of cash some people are tossing away for these scripts.

Don't think I'm dissing the webmasters, I'm not. I'm down on all the blind faith so many of us have placed in the golden script, and I'm down on the scripts themselves. I think they've made some webmasters pretty goddam lazy as well. Fine, let the script do all the work, as long as it does it correctly.

Anyone feel the same way or similar? Am I the only one that's fucking pissed off with knocking my head against every boy and his dog's scripted sites? I send out 90 hits to the script, my tracker reads only 30 back. You'd think a $1200 script would be a bit more accurate than that. I think I'll stick with the ol' tracker-and-my-wits method, thank you very much.

What about you? Still wanna drop 1-2 thou on a magical script?
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08-14-2001, 09:25 PM
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Thinking of running a trade script on your site? You might want to reconsider it..... I've about had it with trading with scripted sites. I'm talking about the big intricate $1200 fancy-ass scripts that do everything but pick the webmaster's nose. I've run into so many problems with these trades I lost count months ago, plus I know literally dozens of webmasters that are now having serious regrets about making the move to scripted sites. Many of them are now making the move to UN-script. Why? The answer isn't as complicated as setting up one of these damn things. I'll tell you from the perspective of the other webmaster first: I get tons of webmasters asking for link trades as usual, only now it's "just send me hits and my script will reset at midnight and send you hits back tomorrow" or "come to my site and sign up for a trade". Of course in the good old days (early 2000) it was customary for webmasters wanting a link trade to actually PUT UP your link first, and then ask for the trade. This was common courtesy, a thing that I still do to this day. Also, a lot of scripts "prioritize" your trade, so if you only start out making their top 25-40, you are what they term "low priority" thus you wait for your hits until everyone else get's theirs. I RARELY get back what I send from such scripts. OR, the script controls every outlink on the main page of the site, thus every link is a blind link, so all of my quality targeted hits go to them, and I get back all blind shit traffic. The only good thing I've seen so far in scripts is that I've had about 2 dozen or so webmasters tell me how high my productivity level is. Like I didn't know that? From the perspective of the scripted site owner: There are scripts that also keep track of your "owed hits" and some of these scripts seem to operate in the minus at all times, no matter how big your site is or how high your quality is. Strange, I don't recall some of these sites ever having much problems with their owed hits before the script. Script problem 2 -- what about trading with another scripted site? Sometimes both scripts are set up so that the other must initiate the trade, and since neither is about to send any hits to the other first, guess what?... that's right, no trade! I had a good laugh when I first heard that one. The problem is that many many scripts are designed to "sit back and wait for hits" before a trade is initiated, and some are programmed to reset to a new trade every day. Now, what if I were to email any of you and say "I'd like to trade traffic with you. Just Put up my link in a good spot, send me lots of hits and sometime in the next 12-24 hours I'll start sending you hits back" -- you'd tell me to go fuck myself with a swiffer wet-jet for fuck sakes. What makes you scripted site owners think that guys like me are any more willing to put up with this shit? Some scripts have problems tracking hits from freehosts for some reason. Why am I not surprised? Bottom line, I believe that to all concerned, scripts are usually more trouble than they're worth. I've honestly only had a small few trades with scripted sites that were productive in BOTH directions for any meaningful length of time, which is sad considering the amount of cash some people are tossing away for these scripts. Don't think I'm dissing the webmasters, I'm not. I'm down on all the blind faith so many of us have placed in the golden script, and I'm down on the scripts themselves. I think they've made some webmasters pretty goddam lazy as well. Fine, let the script do all the work, as long as it does it correctly. Anyone feel the same way or similar? Am I the only one that's fucking pissed off with knocking my head against every boy and his dog's scripted sites? I send out 90 hits to the script, my tracker reads only 30 back. You'd think a $1200 script would be a bit more accurate than that. I think I'll stick with the ol' tracker-and-my-wits method, thank you very much. What about you? Still wanna drop 1-2 thou on a magical script? <font face="Verdana">___________ CD * <a href="http://www.erasercash.com/wm.html?ID=1380291" TARGET="_blank"><font face="Verdana" color="#FFCCCC">ERASERCASH!</font></a> Earn $35 per sale + webmaster referrals 4 LEVELS DEEP</font> * <a href="http://www.topbucks.com/affiliate/clickthru.cgi?id=1448" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFFFDD"> $40/signup, $50/recur, 65% partnerships</font></a> + free content, free daily galleries! * <a href="http://www.stiffycash.com/?referer=cdsmith" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCFF">Webmasters Make $35 per $1.95 Trial!!</font></a> Free content, ya you gonna get a big stiffy! [This message has been edited by CDSmith (edited 08-14-2001).]