10-16-2004, 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by dig420
first off, Shamrock outweighs Royce by about 50 lbs. Or more. And Royce tapped his ass out in their first fight and Shamrock held on for dear life and fought for a draw in their second. And Shamrock is a real live world-class fighter in legitimate and proven fighting arts, as opposed to an actor who studies a useless system and never did more than get in a few backyard scraps.
Second, there are plenty of 'real' strikers in MMA, always have been. Art Jimmerson was in the first UFC. The reason boxers get their clocks cleaned is because they can't fight on the ground. Also, you don't need the punching power of Mike Tyson to be a good striker in MMA because they're basically using their bare hands, and you don't have to hit like Tyson to knock a man out with your naked fist.
Botha got fucked up in K-1, let alone trying to compete in UFC.
Here's what the UFC is, for those who've never heard of it. All styles allowed, mano a mano, and the last one standing is the cock of the walk. For the first three years, until everybody started learning BJJ, Royce Gracie - 170 lbs - tapped out everybody, all sizes, from all other martial arts. If they hadn't started using BJJ, he'd be doing it to this day.
All the Gracies did was fight anyone and everyone and never NEVER lose until people started fighting like the Gracies. You people who still think Nin-Jitsu, Pressure Point Fighting and Kung-Fu work are no better than flat-earthers.
The question isn't in debate, it's been settled for anyone paying attention. Ground Fighters beat stand-up fighters. EVERYBODY beats Kung Fu fighters. If you don't have submissions in your game, a submission fighter is going to whip your ass.
BJJ, Muay Thai, Sambo and Wrestling if you learn some BJJ submissions are about the only things that work in real life. He who has ears (and eyes and an internet connection and can read english) let him hear.
Everybody else go on waiting for Santy Claus to come down the chimney 
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Whats all the hype with the Gracie's ?
Royce in his prime still would get owned by the Nog brothers, he only pulled of that many submissions because fighters back then had no clue on how to defend submissions.
Even Sak "The Gracie Hunter" took each one of them out!
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