I agree, i think the real player stuff thats around is mostly legacy. WMP and Quicktime are the only players to worry about supporting, realplayer is trash and you can directly correlate the state of their company with how hard it is to use their "free" product without wading through all the bullshit. I love their new fake 'messenging system' where they can spam your desktop at any time and popup a window. WMP comes with the OS, as much as it sucks for someone to gain the upper hand that way, its still true and besides that the product is far superior anyway in all the ways previously mentioned.
