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Old 12-18-2010, 02:08 PM   #1
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Senate Repeals Don't Ask, Don't Tell

By a vote of 65 to 31 this afternoon, the Senate voted to repeal the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.


Now, if they can get their shit together and pass the Zadroga Bill this lame duck session won't seem so lame.
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a divided military is a weak military.

this will divide them.

and i say, good.
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a divided military is a weak military.

this will divide them.

and i say, good.
Hey, we can't wait until you leave the country


Also, I think many people missed this part, which is very crucial.

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Hey, we can't wait until you leave the country
it doesn't make any difference whether i leave or not.
the nwo is everywhere, I'm just happy their fist will be weakened.
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By a vote of 65 to 31 this afternoon, the Senate voted to repeal the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.
Good. Saying, "hey, you can fight & die for your country, but shhh... don't dare tell anyone you're gay or we'll fire you", is pretty disrespectful, to say the least.

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Yeah, now that the media is on it finally, I'm sure it'll be passed quite shortly.
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if people hate gays so much you'd think they'd be okay sending them to the front lines to get shot at
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Yeah, now that the media is on it finally, I'm sure it'll be passed quite shortly.
One can only hope.
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Sweet... Another small step forward for America. With so many gays already fighting and dying for our Country - it will go all the way through without much of an issue, as promised.
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They didn't have DADT when I was in, if they thought you were gay, they shipped you out. My daughter just got out of the Navy and she believes that it's going to have lots of problems. I'm for lifting the ban on gays serving, but I know there will be problems.
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They didn't have DADT when I was in, if they thought you were gay, they shipped you out. My daughter just got out of the Navy and she believes that it's going to have lots of problems. I'm for lifting the ban on gays serving, but I know there will be problems.
Yeah, just like there were problems when blacks were first allowed to serve. Don't worry, in time everyone will get over it, and it'll become a norm, which is how it should be.
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WHAT?! they allow blacks in the military?!?!?!?! I'm writing my congressman
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It is about fucking time......

Now those pussies that avoided military service (the draft) by pretending to be gay won't be able to get away with it again.
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It is about fucking time......

Now those pussies that avoided military service (the draft) by pretending to be gay won't be able to get away with it again.
Not true. They can be flamboyantly gay in which case they'll get thrown out.. Remember, Obama and his people have to prove that allowing this policy WONT affect units, their morale, and their fighting abilities. It's not just going to get signed..
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I'm sure that in the event of another war, by the time the Draft is reinstated, the gov't won't care how fabulous you look in OD Green.
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I'm sure that in the event of another war, by the time the Draft is reinstated, the gov't won't care how fabulous you look in OD Green.
Draft? Not in our lifetime.
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Draft, not in our lifetime? It was in mine, my father's and my grandfather's lifetimes.

I wouldn't be so sure we won't see it again if gov't feels it is needed.

Let's see what happens eventually with Border Security problems.

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Yeah, just like there were problems when blacks were first allowed to serve. Don't worry, in time everyone will get over it, and it'll become a norm, which is how it should be.
They integrated blacks in the military by having them serve in black only groups, you want to tell gays they will be in gay only groups?

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Draft, not in our lifetime? It was in mine, my father's and my grandfather's lifetimes.

I wouldn't be so sure we won't see it again if gov't feels it is needed.

Let's see what happens eventually with Border Security problems.
there was a draft when I was a kid, but not since, never say never.
Would love to see the border of the US get the same treatment as the border of Afghanistan
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Why would they reinstate the draft. It's easier to bankrupt the middle class and leave the poor the choice to serve since their won't be any other jobs anyway.
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The weaking effect you describe will have minimal impact at best. The military-industrial complex is far too large and powerful to let a couple of fags get in the way.
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How will this devide them. You do realize that gays are currently and have served in the military. My grandfather served in WWII and he told me he knew there were gay guys serving. He didn't give a shit as long as they did their job.
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Yeah they let hispanics and asians serve too. Though they don't let the asians drive tanks.
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this will divide them.

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exactly the same thing was said when the military became racially integrated
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Draft, not in our lifetime? It was in mine, my father's and my grandfather's lifetimes.

I wouldn't be so sure we won't see it again if gov't feels it is needed.

Let's see what happens eventually with Border Security problems.
There was a draft in my lifetime too, but we have better technology and turn people away from enlisting. Even when I got my 4f, or whatever they called it back then, I was told that unless there was WWIII there was no chance of me being called.

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How will this devide them. You do realize that gays are currently and have served in the military. My grandfather served in WWII and he told me he knew there were gay guys serving. He didn't give a shit as long as they did their job.
Exactly, so Don't tell. Don't parade around.

We wont ask, you do your job, and dont tell anyone.

What is the need for gays to announce they are gay??

I just do not get that, be gay, but dont be a fag...
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Exactly, so Don't tell. Don't parade around.

We wont ask, you do your job, and dont tell anyone.

What is the need for gays to announce they are gay??

I just do not get that, be gay, but dont be a fag...

That's not the point, no one is talking about "parading" or even "announcing". There have been thousands of gay soldiers kicked out of the military simply because they were out in public with their partner, and a goody two shoes ahole reported it.
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They didn't have DADT when I was in, if they thought you were gay, they shipped you out. My daughter just got out of the Navy and she believes that it's going to have lots of problems. I'm for lifting the ban on gays serving, but I know there will be problems.
She means there will be "problems" just like there were "problems when women first started serving on ship in the US Navy", right?
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She means there will be "problems" just like there were "problems when women first started serving on ship in the US Navy", right?
Pretty much.
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That's not the point, no one is talking about "parading" or even "announcing". There have been thousands of gay soldiers kicked out of the military simply because they were out in public with their partner, and a goody two shoes ahole reported it.
Yeah I forgot about that...
Damed if you do .......
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They have been for a while.

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They have been for a while.

Jesus CHrist. Next thing you know, they're going to allow gays to serve in the military.
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Pretty much.
No, it's the consensus of the ship she was on that gays serving openly would make people uncomfortable more than having women on the ship.
When kids join the military they are surrounded by women, they are not always surrounded by gays.
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I hate the war we are waging on the other side of the world when people are getting killed on our border, something wrong with that?
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No, it's the consensus of the ship she was on that gays serving openly would make people uncomfortable more than having women on the ship.
When kids join the military they are surrounded by women, they are not always surrounded by gays.
Remember that I'm for gays serving
Gays already serve.

"Seventy-five percent of Americans in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll said gay people who are open about their sexual orientation should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military"

The consensus is your daughter is mostly likely a homophobe.

If she is anything like you she probably talked to 2-3 people and it became a "consensus of the ship".

What is with straight people? They act like gay people are running around raping straight people. truly hilarious. What is there to be uncomfortable to be about? looks like you raised her well.

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What is truly hilarious is that you use one poll to try and make a point.
i dont believe in polls anyway, they can be turned to fit anyones agenda that i understand. but if you actually think the majority of people these days have a problem with it you are nuts.

with all the problems in the world this takes headline? how is it even open for discussion?

somehow peoples sexual preference is going to change anything? it is ming boggling.

there is no point in discussing this with people. eventually the generation of idiots will die off and hopefully we can move towards openness and understanding.

if you really think the "enemy" gives a fuck about who is taking it in the ass or who is licking whos box you are indeed insane.

hum maybe stop killing innocent women and children (either side) and see what happens.

but nope we gotta discuss about gays. LOL i had to check the date and make sure we arent in the stone ages.

with the way some of you idiots think i sometimes am looking for the fast forward button on my time machine.
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:07 PM   #47
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Bunch of retards in this thread.

There have always been gay people in the military.

Read the Pentagon's just completed in-depth study on the issue. Most members had no issues with repeal.
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:10 PM   #48
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No, it's the consensus of the ship she was on that gays serving openly would make people uncomfortable more than having women on the ship.
When kids join the military they are surrounded by women, they are not always surrounded by gays.
Remember that I'm for gays serving
Well guess what, she served on an ass-backwards ship, because that is not the general consensus.

I think that is YOUR general consensus because you're a backwards redneck hillbilly.
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:14 PM   #49
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Gays already serve.

"Seventy-five percent of Americans in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll said gay people who are open about their sexual orientation should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military"

The consensus is your daughter is mostly likely a homophobe.

If she is anything like you she probably talked to 2-3 people and it became a "consensus of the ship".

What is with straight people? They act like gay people are running around raping straight people. truly hilarious. What is there to be uncomfortable to be about? looks like you raised her well.
Funny you should say that, i just got off the phone with a lesbian i met in
the navy 30 years ago, she was drunk and telling about her love life. We have kept in contact for 30 years. My daughter is better than that and you trying to make this about her truly shows what a low piece of shit you are. I said they should be allowed to serve, I don't know where your ignorance got that I'm a homophobe.
By your own statement, 75% of those surveyed said they were ok with gays serving openly, guess you are quick to dismiss the other 25% of them, on an aircraft carrier thats about 1000 crewmen that don't like it, if you don't think that might be a problem, you're a moron!!!!
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:19 PM   #50
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what happens if a guy is trying to shoot an arab and some gay dude is sucking his cock? i could see how this could make people feel uncomfortable.
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