I Just hit 17k per day using hostgator basic plan - GoFuckYourself.com

meka2003 · 02-11-2011, 12:09 PM

i run a basic tubesite in which i embed videos.. hostgator disabled my search function because i am using too much system resources. is 17k worth a VPS or dedicated server now? tnxx

Harmon · 02-11-2011, 12:11 PM

pristine · 02-11-2011, 12:13 PM

nah 17k isn't, if you're doing xxx,xxx,xxx/day you'd want to think about a small VPS. If you do double that maybe a $60 a month dedicated.

TMM_John · 02-11-2011, 12:15 PM

Nah, $4/month hosting is fine. Who needs a search function anyway.

meka2003 · 02-11-2011, 12:20 PM

you guys being serious about your answers?

pristine · 02-11-2011, 12:22 PM

guy? I'm a japanese girl

DamageX · 02-11-2011, 12:24 PM

You need FlapJacks

TMM_John · 02-11-2011, 12:34 PM

guy? I'm a 7-Eleven

u-Bob · 02-11-2011, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meka2003

you guys being serious about your answers?

Well, we are all thinking the same thing about your question

Agent 488 · 02-11-2011, 12:37 PM

move your shit to dreamhost. problem solved.

Jakez · 02-11-2011, 01:27 PM

See sig, their virtual plans will let you do a hell of a lot more than that before complaining.

AzteK · 02-11-2011, 01:29 PM

are you fucking with me?

Chris · 02-11-2011, 01:41 PM

dude just spend $50 a month and get a small dedicated

tonyparra · 02-11-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pristine

guy? I'm a japanese girl

I fucked you...

pornguy · 02-11-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

move your shit to dreamhost. problem solved.

If he plans to be tricky with his site then he better stay where he is at.

brassmonkey · 02-11-2011, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pristine

guy? I'm a japanese girl

i think i know who you are. D***** Br*ker

brassmonkey · 02-11-2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John

Nah, $4/month hosting is fine. Who needs a search function anyway.

you get what you pay for

strobi · 02-11-2011, 01:54 PM

Links pulled!

Supz · 02-11-2011, 01:58 PM

With 17k a day you should be able to afford a 35 dollars a month VPS. It is time for an upgrade my friend. Do you ever track stats of your search bar? You probably should.

cooldude7 · 02-11-2011, 02:40 PM

the question is does 17k/day converting ?
how much money u making in cash/ dont tell me virtual money u have at sponsors account.?

if u are making 100% and ur current host limiting ur usage and if that affects ur biz., by more than 5% then switch to another host by spending not more than 35% on hosting if u are from 1st world country and if ur from 3rd world u can spend as much as 60% on hosting but nor more than 250 bucks for dedicated.., something is better than nothing..
best of luck.

GFY
p.s. blame the tubes.

AzteK · 02-11-2011, 03:09 PM

17K what? Unique visitors? Visits? Hits?

marlboroack · 02-11-2011, 03:13 PM

Ugh, i don't think this was a real question. Now i have so many questions about what he is trying to get answered here.

Si · 02-11-2011, 03:23 PM

I just fondled my balls and had a tiny itch.

Hope that helps

CurrentlySober · 02-11-2011, 03:32 PM

i just like poo...

wehateporn · 02-11-2011, 03:35 PM

Upgrade to $15 per month Unlimited on Hostgator

I know it says unlimited but best not to move the BBC News site there if you happen to be the guy behind that site

Machete_ · 02-11-2011, 03:44 PM

you need to move to Webair

JosephFM · 02-11-2011, 05:39 PM

Move to webair or amerinoc for the time being.

Loki · 02-11-2011, 05:57 PM

Pardon me for popping in a 'serious' reply...

it really doesn't matter if you have 17k a day or 200k a day with hostgator, they are totally random when it comes to "server overload"

I have a shared biz account there that I use for demos for mainstream clients, I've been running a flash chatroom demo for a client trying to get them to buy the chat and one of my team to install / run it for them on their own website...

Over the past few weeks there have been between 5 - 40 members in the chatroom, and Hostgator has pulled the script 4 times now (last night was #4) the funniest thing is ALL 4 times they pulled it for "server overload" there were diff numbers of users in the chatroom, but NO TIME was that number over 20 users (the nights that have 20 - 40 users there is NO server overload lmao)

and for anyone that cares, each user of the chat sends 1 server request every 3 seconds, but according to Hostgator....

10 users = overload (200 requests per min)
15 users = overload (300 requests per min)
09 users = overload (180 requests per min)
18 users = overload (360 requests per min)

20-40 users = no prob (400 - 800 requests per min)

Hostgator is good for small shit, or running a site demo, (and even they have said to me that they work best for "standard" sites, html, images and text only!)

as others have said "you get what you pay for"

-Loki-

HomerSimpson · 02-11-2011, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

Pardon me for popping in a 'serious' reply...

it really doesn't matter if you have 17k a day or 200k a day with hostgator, they are totally random when it comes to "server overload"

I have a shared biz account there that I use for demos for mainstream clients, I've been running a flash chatroom demo for a client trying to get them to buy the chat and one of my team to install / run it for them on their own website...

Over the past few weeks there have been between 5 - 40 members in the chatroom, and Hostgator has pulled the script 4 times now (last night was #4) the funniest thing is ALL 4 times they pulled it for "server overload" there were diff numbers of users in the chatroom, but NO TIME was that number over 20 users (the nights that have 20 - 40 users there is NO server overload lmao)

and for anyone that cares, each user of the chat sends 1 server request every 3 seconds, but according to Hostgator....

10 users = overload (200 requests per min)
15 users = overload (300 requests per min)
09 users = overload (180 requests per min)
18 users = overload (360 requests per min)

20-40 users = no prob (400 - 800 requests per min)

Hostgator is good for small shit, or running a site demo, (and even they have said to me that they work best for "standard" sites, html, images and text only!)

as others have said "you get what you pay for"

-Loki-

all shared hostings prohibit all kind of chat scripts, since they can pump up the load...
you'll need vps or dedicated for those

my advice as always is Certified Hosting / NakedHosting

leg4 · 02-11-2011, 06:21 PM

Stupid question.

Spend $50-80, get a small dedi and build your business.

Loki · 02-11-2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

all shared hostings prohibit all kind of chat scripts, since they can pump up the load...
you'll need vps or dedicated for those

my advice as always is Certified Hosting / NakedHosting

which is why the flash chat was created, little to no server load, everything saved into a single txt file (IF you want it logged) the ONLY thing it does is call a refresh X times per user per min (you set up that variable)

I actually spent quite a few hours with their techs before I launched the demo just to make sure there would be no probs.

As I said though I only use that server for client demos and shit, I have other servers for our big stuff.

I was just pointing out that Hostgator is just random with what IS and what is NOT overload.

-Loki-

DaddyHalbucks · 02-11-2011, 06:29 PM

I LOLed.

woj · 02-11-2011, 06:37 PM

get a small dedicated server like others suggested...

Chosen · 02-11-2011, 06:38 PM

LoL at the early responses

Ron Bennett · 02-11-2011, 07:37 PM

Just a few concurrent scripts running will often put on over CPU limit on HostGator basic plan. Upgrade to their business plan, and the limits are a bit better, but still relatively low compared to most VPS services.

As for why a flash app and script would put one over limit at seemingly random times, I suspect part of it may be the overall server load plays a significant role as to when their CPU limiter kicks in for individual accounts. So if server load was already high, that may partly explain it.

Some other things to consider:

Does the script / flash app utilize any ports other than 80? If so, such usage is likely to be more heavily scrutinized / easily spotted.

The size of the flash app itself that's downloaded by the user's browser - doubt that would be an issue unless it's being dynamically created and/or is many megs in size.

There's the statistical possibility that even with only a handful of chat users, their requests are all arriving at nearly the same time. That shouldn't happen often, but it's potentially possible, and with HostGator usage limits, a bunch of concurrent requests to the chat script may set off alarms.

With all that said, it's possible HostGator is running some kind of keyword filter against script / flash app names ... try renaming the flash app and the script to something nonsensical and remove the word "chat" from the chat webpage. Not sure if that would matter, but something to try.

Ron

Loki · 02-11-2011, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Just a few concurrent scripts running will often put on over CPU limit on HostGator basic plan. Upgrade to their business plan, and the limits are a bit better, but still relatively low compared to most VPS services.

As for why a flash app and script would put one over limit at seemingly random times, I suspect part of it may be the overall server load plays a significant role as to when their CPU limiter kicks in for individual accounts. So if server load was already high, that may partly explain it.

Some other things to consider:

Does the script / flash app utilize any ports other than 80? If so, such usage is likely to be more heavily scrutinized / easily spotted.

The size of the flash app itself that's downloaded by the user's browser - doubt that would be an issue unless it's being dynamically created and/or is many megs in size.

There's the statistical possibility that even with only a handful of chat users, their requests are all arriving at nearly the same time. That shouldn't happen often, but it's potentially possible, and with HostGator usage limits, a bunch of concurrent requests to the chat script may set off alarms.

With all that said, it's possible HostGator is running some kind of keyword filter against script / flash app names ... try renaming the flash app and the script to something nonsensical and remove the word "chat" from the chat webpage. Not sure if that would matter, but something to try.

Ron

You make some valid points, however I'm NOT looking to fix or keep a chatroom on a shared server with hostgator, I was just pointing out that HG is quite random with what they consider to be high usage....

The chatscript I had running as a demo ONLY makes 1 call per 4 seconds per user, no matter what the user is doing, typing, or idol it's still ONLY 1 request per 4 secs per user in the room.

this is why I find it funny as hell that "larger" nights there is no issues with server load, but smaller nights they literally lockdown the getxml file and start banning ip's

as I've said prior THEIR 2nd level and security techs went through the script PRIOR to me launching the demos to our clients, and they (HG) found NOTHING that would cause a high load UNLESS we were sending THOUSANDS of requests per min.

again, I'm NOT looking to make the script work with HG, nor am I looking for hosting lol.

-Loki-

chaze · 02-12-2011, 03:01 AM

Funny we just got a new customer for having a dead slow site with a couple hundred hits a day. I guess you got lucky.

loreen · 02-12-2011, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

move your shit to dreamhost. problem solved.

Oh God

signupdamnit · 02-12-2011, 07:40 AM

If this is 17k uniques or visitors per day I'd say there is a very good chance that upgrading to a good dedicated server alone could push you over 20k or 25k uniques a day and pay for itself. If your host is running slow or throttling you that will affect your traffic and enforce a sort of traffic ceiling you will never get over on that host. Just make sure the new host is good and that things load quickly.

Seth Manson · 02-12-2011, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pristine

I'm a japanese girl

I'm fucking you this weekend.

brassmonkey · 02-12-2011, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

I'm fucking you this weekend.

that's funny

kazbalah · 02-12-2011, 08:57 AM

Wow, we have some real wankers here on GFY dont we

I have some TGPS on host gator which do about 40k / day and they have been running fine for a year or two.

Although my tube search engine got shut down because it created 300,000 files and was slowing the server down.

So i am guessing they only shut down your account if it affects the server your on.

If your running a tube site and embedding videos as you say, only 1000 hits could be 10 or 20 GB per day.

So as many people have suggested if you want to grow your site i would suggest get a dedicated box.

The cheapest dedicated boxes i know of, are from FDCservers.net

FDC is also huge, they own a few data centers across the US, if anyone knows of a cheaper and bigger company please let me know ill get a box from them

02-11-2011, 12:09 PM	#1
meka2003 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 345	I Just hit 17k per day using hostgator basic plan i run a basic tubesite in which i embed videos.. hostgator disabled my search function because i am using too much system resources. is 17k worth a VPS or dedicated server now? tnxx

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pristine So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,176	nah 17k isn't, if you're doing xxx,xxx,xxx/day you'd want to think about a small VPS. If you do double that maybe a $60 a month dedicated.

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meka2003 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 345	you guys being serious about your answers?

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pristine So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,176	guy? I'm a japanese girl

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Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	With 17k a day you should be able to afford a 35 dollars a month VPS. It is time for an upgrade my friend. Do you ever track stats of your search bar? You probably should.

02-11-2011, 02:40 PM	#20
cooldude7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven Posts: 4,306	the question is does 17k/day converting ? how much money u making in cash/ dont tell me virtual money u have at sponsors account.? if u are making 100% and ur current host limiting ur usage and if that affects ur biz., by more than 5% then switch to another host by spending not more than 35% on hosting if u are from 1st world country and if ur from 3rd world u can spend as much as 60% on hosting but nor more than 250 bucks for dedicated.., something is better than nothing.. best of luck. GFY p.s. blame the tubes. Last edited by cooldude7; 02-11-2011 at 02:45 PM..

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AzteK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Northern Cali, USA Posts: 3,447	17K what? Unique visitors? Visits? Hits?

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marlboroack So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ☣ Posts: 9,327	Ugh, i don't think this was a real question. Now i have so many questions about what he is trying to get answered here.

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02-11-2011, 05:57 PM	#28
Loki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,420	Pardon me for popping in a 'serious' reply... it really doesn't matter if you have 17k a day or 200k a day with hostgator, they are totally random when it comes to "server overload" I have a shared biz account there that I use for demos for mainstream clients, I've been running a flash chatroom demo for a client trying to get them to buy the chat and one of my team to install / run it for them on their own website... Over the past few weeks there have been between 5 - 40 members in the chatroom, and Hostgator has pulled the script 4 times now (last night was #4) the funniest thing is ALL 4 times they pulled it for "server overload" there were diff numbers of users in the chatroom, but NO TIME was that number over 20 users (the nights that have 20 - 40 users there is NO server overload lmao) and for anyone that cares, each user of the chat sends 1 server request every 3 seconds, but according to Hostgator.... 10 users = overload (200 requests per min) 15 users = overload (300 requests per min) 09 users = overload (180 requests per min) 18 users = overload (360 requests per min) 20-40 users = no prob (400 - 800 requests per min) Hostgator is good for small shit, or running a site demo, (and even they have said to me that they work best for "standard" sites, html, images and text only!) as others have said "you get what you pay for" -Loki- __________________ MAKE MONEY WITH 3D TOONS! Need hosting? LokiCa$h Uses Amerinoc and love them! Skype: LokiPorn Or Email 3dloki\|at\|gmail.com

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02-11-2011, 07:37 PM	#35
Ron Bennett Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,653	Just a few concurrent scripts running will often put on over CPU limit on HostGator basic plan. Upgrade to their business plan, and the limits are a bit better, but still relatively low compared to most VPS services. As for why a flash app and script would put one over limit at seemingly random times, I suspect part of it may be the overall server load plays a significant role as to when their CPU limiter kicks in for individual accounts. So if server load was already high, that may partly explain it. Some other things to consider: Does the script / flash app utilize any ports other than 80? If so, such usage is likely to be more heavily scrutinized / easily spotted. The size of the flash app itself that's downloaded by the user's browser - doubt that would be an issue unless it's being dynamically created and/or is many megs in size. There's the statistical possibility that even with only a handful of chat users, their requests are all arriving at nearly the same time. That shouldn't happen often, but it's potentially possible, and with HostGator usage limits, a bunch of concurrent requests to the chat script may set off alarms. With all that said, it's possible HostGator is running some kind of keyword filter against script / flash app names ... try renaming the flash app and the script to something nonsensical and remove the word "chat" from the chat webpage. Not sure if that would matter, but something to try. Ron __________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales

02-12-2011, 03:01 AM	#37
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Funny we just got a new customer for having a dead slow site with a couple hundred hits a day. I guess you got lucky.

02-12-2011, 07:40 AM	#39
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	If this is 17k uniques or visitors per day I'd say there is a very good chance that upgrading to a good dedicated server alone could push you over 20k or 25k uniques a day and pay for itself. If your host is running slow or throttling you that will affect your traffic and enforce a sort of traffic ceiling you will never get over on that host. Just make sure the new host is good and that things load quickly. Last edited by signupdamnit; 02-12-2011 at 07:42 AM..

02-12-2011, 08:57 AM	#42
kazbalah Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,215	Wow, we have some real wankers here on GFY dont we I have some TGPS on host gator which do about 40k / day and they have been running fine for a year or two. Although my tube search engine got shut down because it created 300,000 files and was slowing the server down. So i am guessing they only shut down your account if it affects the server your on. If your running a tube site and embedding videos as you say, only 1000 hits could be 10 or 20 GB per day. So as many people have suggested if you want to grow your site i would suggest get a dedicated box. The cheapest dedicated boxes i know of, are from FDCservers.net FDC is also huge, they own a few data centers across the US, if anyone knows of a cheaper and bigger company please let me know ill get a box from them __________________ Link Directory Submitter - Forum Auto Submitter - Article Submitter - Simple SE submitter - Blog Auto Poster - 45 Wordpress Themes - Mis Spelt Keyword Generator - Auto Forum Submitter