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Old 02-17-2011, 08:09 AM   #1
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Heads up to these sponsors - come inside!

If your one of the sponsors below which is currently listed on bdm-sponsors.com, please read this - Very important.

I am going to review every pay site submitted in the central database and check for mobile redirection. If your program is listed below and your pay sites redirect to sites other then your own program (which is basically fucking the affiliate) then prepare to be deleted. There is no reason to do this. If you don't have mobile sites then let the traffic flow to your full site. Stop fucking the affiliates!

An email will be sent out to all accounts this week and you have a small amount of time to fix your shit before I hit delete. At the begging of next week, you will find a Pending, Pass or Fail against your pay sites.

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Old 02-17-2011, 08:35 AM   #2
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zorgman- not sure if you saw our announcement- http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=1010684
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:54 AM   #3
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be sure to also post the cheaters here
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:43 AM   #4
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Yes Amar, I saw this and im glad you fixed it now, but how long had you been redirecting affiliates traffic?
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:18 PM   #5
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TripleXCash is currently redirecting mobile traffic to xmovies.com (Movieprofits) without affiliate ID. Their almost on my cheaters list.
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:38 PM   #6
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TripleXCash is currently redirecting mobile traffic to xmovies.com (Movieprofits) without affiliate ID. Their almost on my cheaters list.
Put them on.
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:50 PM   #7
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i giggled at topbucks being in that list
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:50 PM   #8
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Just FYI, some sponsors pay on the mobile redirect and it doesn't go to them, it can work just like wl cams/dating but for mobile.

What you should be doing is redirecting your own traffic to a whitelabel. That way you're getting credit for cross device returns. Something no sponsor can credit you on if you're not pushing your traffic to your own wl or site.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:02 PM   #9
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You should be redirecting your own mobile before it even gets to a sponsor. There is no reason for a sponsor not to redirect because you probably wouldn't have been able to convert that join.

Hit me up, I'll give you the script to use. You pick the mobile sponsor, just try it.
Kristin @ topbucks.com

BTW we give credit on the mobile redirect, hosted galleries, etc.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:13 PM   #10
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You should be redirecting your own mobile before it even gets to a sponsor. There is no reason for a sponsor not to redirect because you probably wouldn't have been able to convert that join.

Hit me up, I'll give you the script to use. You pick the mobile sponsor, just try it.
Kristin @ topbucks.com

BTW we give credit on the mobile redirect, hosted galleries, etc.
I'm not going to redirect anyone to any site using any script. A lot of webmasters feel the same way. Some guy wants to browse my sites with his phone - that's cool. I'm not going to fuck him around. He can sit there all day and click on shit for all I'm concerned.

The problem is this: That mobile surfer might click on one of my links. That link is redirected to some random mobile site from a different comapny, and I don't get credit for the sale. That is deception and, basically, theft.

This has nothing to do with Topucks - you guys are WAY ahead of the curve.

Other programs redirect all mobile traffic to some-mobile-site.com

Funny thing is, mobile devices will soon be able to access websites as well as PCs (if they can't already), making the whole "redirect" thing irrelevant.

Its outright theft to redirect mobile traffic to another program. And you know that.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:21 PM   #11
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Well it's hard to redirect mobile traffic when it's a mobile site im attracting. Some of my sites are for mobiles only and therefor use this function is pointless as no one would see my site.

I guess this is another form of shaving and it sucks!
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:31 PM   #12
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I'm not going to redirect anyone to any site using any script. A lot of webmasters feel the same way. Some guy wants to browse my sites with his phone - that's cool. I'm not going to fuck him around. He can sit there all day and click on shit for all I'm concerned.
After seeing numbers and few complaints you should give your mobile surfers the option to go to a mobile optimized site or stay on yours and surf around.

I get what you are saying and yes, there are a lot of WMs who do feel the same way. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last where some method of promotion/sales doesn't please everyone.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:35 PM   #13
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I'm not going to redirect anyone to any site using any script. A lot of webmasters feel the same way.
A surfer on a mobile device can hardly use your site, just because they're on your site doesn't mean they can use it worth a crap. If you don't want to do a redirect, then give them a mobile site to enjoy. I promise you they leave your site right now to find a site that works for them - don't let them do that.

A lot more webmasters already do something about it....

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Its outright theft to redirect mobile traffic to another program. And you know that.
That depends if you're using PPS or Revshare... most pps programs only pay on the main cc form sales, and most send traffic to various places on exits, xsales, upsells, ect without crediting you.

I don't consider this theft at all, I consider it your responsibility to monetize the device traffic because you can't use it right now. Just like I consider it the programs responsibility to monetize the traffic they can't do anything with.

Straight up - no reason for both of you to be stubborn.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:39 PM   #14
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Well it's hard to redirect mobile traffic when it's a mobile site im attracting. Some of my sites are for mobiles only and therefor use this function is pointless as no one would see my site.

I guess this is another form of shaving and it sucks!
If you're on a mobile site, you want your linking codes to go straight to the mobile site. If you're sending to the pc tour, letting the detect script catch it, that's an extra redirect - and redirects on mobile should happen as little as possible - even by 1 - it's more traffic making it to the tour.

Even more so if you already detected them on your side to show them mobile.. no reason to do it again at the Sponsor level.

Doing it this way will also ensure you're not pushing sponsors that are doing redirects you may not like.
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:03 AM   #15
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We redirect to mobile versions of the sites and affilates get paid for these signups since day 1. They can see these in their stats too. We are ready for investigation
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Old 02-18-2011, 07:07 AM   #16
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You won't find any problem with PrivateCash.com. Our mobile site is rock solid.
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