.XXX Pre-Registrations Hit 300,000

[DateDoc]

ICM Registry has received over 300,000 pre-registrations for its new .xxx domain names as of this morning. It has received tens of thousands of pre-registrations in just the past few days.

Of course, these pre-registrations don?t necessarily mean .XXX will get 300,000 registrations on the first day. There?s no cost to pre-register. There?s also no guarantee that those who express an interest in a name will get it. It?s more of a notification system than anything else.

Domains will be allocated in multiple ways. There will be options for trademark holders, possible priority for those that own the same second level domain name under a different TLD, an RFP process for developing valuable names, and auctions.

http://domainnamewire.com/2011/03/21...ns-hit-300000/

[will76]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

and auctions.

There you have it, anyone with delusions of thinking that they can get a great .xxx domain for the cost of normal registration, its not going to happen. If they really do honor the sunrise shit and allow people who own the .com's first shot, then everything that isn't registered that is a good domain will go up for auction. No way in hell this greedy bastard is going to let people reg good domains for normal price.

I bet if more than 1 person tries to pre reg a domain, and the person with the .com doesnt take it, then that would prompt some type of auction. So good luck pre registering a domain that is good, that no one else wants.

Aslo keep in mind, those 300K pre reg's i'd bet more than 1/2 are dupicates. I wonder how many of them are for sex.xxx porn.xxx etc.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by will76

Aslo keep in mind, those 300K pre reg's i'd bet more than 1/2 are dupicates. I wonder how many of them are for sex.xxx porn.xxx etc.

Duplicates would make the entire process of pre-registration useless.

The whole point of pre-reg would be to get it before anyone else does.

Don't "bet" about it, please post some proof about it.

[DWB]

300,000... wow.

Who's saying the industry doesn't want this TLD? Looks to me like the industry has spoken.

[BlackCrayon]

the whole "pre-reg" crap is just a way to show that .xxx has support. i'm sure anyone can pre-order any domain any number of times.

[Allison]

I wonder how the count is set up. Does that include domain broker reservations, trademark holders, defensive registrations, etc.

Either it doesn't really matter to me. .XXX is not competing with adult companies, it's competing with .COM and I'm happy to stick with investing in the development of our .COM sites.

Dot Travel story
http://www.travelindex.com/blog/dot_travel

http://www.nic.aero/news/media_profile/q_and_a
With over 60 million domain names registered the .aero suffix removes the user from the anonymity of the Internet , businesses and organisations adopting .aero will always be found in one place and be instantly recognised as aviation companies.

I'm sure .XXX will make itself lots of money no matter what.

I can't even find a relevant .travel or .aero domain I would ever visit. I see Utah registered a .travel, but I don't plan to visit.

[Allison]

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/xxx...ess-tlds/16385

Good article. This is about the domain business, not about the adult business.

[alias]

Originally Posted by Allison

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/xxx...ess-tlds/16385

Good article. This is about the domain business, not about the adult business.

Thanks for the link, it is a good article.

[ArsewithClass]

In reply to email conversation with Stuart Lawley, he explained "Firstly any names you own related to your exact company name etc or covered by any trademarks etc, will have rights protections that already exist."

To then follow "in other cases where the requested name is generic and there is more than one applicant we will have a 'tie-break". Note however that we only allowed names registered before a certain date to pre- reserve, i think it was some time in 2006."

Of which he continued to state that full rules of tie-break had yet to be discussed, however, he did come to prove that you could not obviously pre-reserve websites such as xxx.xxx as xxx.com had obviously been owned for such a long time.

He continued to add "The whole process is designed to deter squatters and opportunist trying to game the system and make sure existing members of the community get their matching names, wherever possible"

Now that .xxx has been approved, I could imagine those with rightful owned websites can continue business without being effected by those with websites that created problems or those trying to effect others business & maybe make a quick buck. Its for those in the long haul.

[slapass]

I did the pre registration. It is pointless. They take zero money and no credit card info. Seriously, that number means nothing.

[DBS.US]

Sheep

[Barry-xlovecam]

The lawsuits haven't begun yet ...

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

300,000... wow.

Who's saying the industry doesn't want this TLD? Looks to me like the industry has spoken.

are you retarded? I can go and pre-register 100,000 names all by myself. doesn't mean the industry is for .XXX

[CaptainHowdy]

Boycott is in full motion ...

[roganoli]

When we think that the adult biz could not get any worse, appears this
now...

Have a question: Can I continue using my domain. com? Or I have to record this. xxx?

[AndreaM]

Originally Posted by roganoli

When we think that the adult biz could not get any worse, appears this
now...

Have a question: Can I continue using my domain. com? Or I have to record this. xxx?

You can absolutely keep your .com but be aware that if you do register your .xxx and redirect to your .com from it, you are agreeing to have your .com spidered by ICM, and to follow any rules, regulations and requirements set forth by IFFOR on your .com as well.

[Redrob]

I imagine that many will not pay the $60 fee when the money comes due.

[Allison]

Originally Posted by Redrob

I imagine that many will not pay the $60 fee when the money comes due.

Lol. I agree. It's amazing how an industry that hates when consumers get our stuff for free is also an industry so accustomed to getting things for free or low cost. Not saying they should pay, just saying there are going to be those "oh I have to pay for this?" reactions.

[DangerX !!!]

Originally Posted by Redrob

I imagine that many will not pay the $60 fee when the money comes due.

60 x 300.000 = 18.000.000

Nice chunk of monies and auctioned ones will probably give even much more...

[AndreaM]

Originally Posted by DangerX !!!

60 x 300.000 = 18.000.000

Nice chunk of monies and auctioned ones will probably give even much more...

Subtract the 12 million supposedly already invested, for year 1. Then take that number, and multiply it for every year, thereafter.

Stewart Lawley was quoted as saying, "This was always going to be a very lucrative arrangement."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1HGGaU5R9

[Redrob]

Lucrative if he has enough buyers who pay and renew each year;.....otherwise, after a year or two, the wolf will be at his door.

[cooldude7]

i thought its price will be $1 so i scraped all single word adult kw from google and imported that in excel and uploaded it to them for preregistration.

if i get anything im gonna tell them to gfy.

[LiveDose]

Dot com is king

[AndreaM]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Lucrative if he has enough buyers who pay and renew each year;.....otherwise, after a year or two, the wolf will be at his door.

I'm rather cheering for the wolf, myself.

[Agent 488]

[leg4]

I rather enjoyed this real business thread.

[D Ghost]

Originally Posted by Allison

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/xxx...ess-tlds/16385

Good article. This is about the domain business, not about the adult business.

Awesome article

[will76]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Duplicates would make the entire process of pre-registration useless.

The whole point of pre-reg would be to get it before anyone else does.

Don't "bet" about it, please post some proof about it.

i just went for the sake of arguing about it and not "betting" and submitted "porn.xxx" "adult.xxx" "sex.xxx" etc. and it accepted them. It didn't say anything about duplicates. I am sure that counted towards their totals too.

So there you go, that total number is full of duplicates. You likely have 100's of people submitting the same domain for registration. It doesn't make the process useless, it just causes an auction to happen if there is more than 1 person trying to pre register the same domain (not counting those who did the sunrise process). Wait till the sunrise period is over and how many auctions there are. Greedy staurt isn't going to have first come first served for non sunrise, he is going to let it go to auction to he can make the most money.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

300,000... wow.

Who's saying the industry doesn't want this TLD? Looks to me like the industry has spoken.

250,000 likely not from this industry. I am sure you heard of "domainers" and people who buy and sell domains for a living. Most of them are likely several of the big names, stupid people thinking they have a shot at something like freeporn.xxx etc.

Originally Posted by Allison

I wonder how the count is set up. Does that include domain broker reservations, trademark holders, defensive registrations, etc.

Either it doesn't really matter to me. .XXX is not competing with adult companies, it's competing with .COM and I'm happy to stick with investing in the development of our .COM sites.

Dot Travel story
http://www.travelindex.com/blog/dot_travel

http://www.nic.aero/news/media_profile/q_and_a
With over 60 million domain names registered the .aero suffix removes the user from the anonymity of the Internet , businesses and organisations adopting .aero will always be found in one place and be instantly recognised as aviation companies.

I'm sure .XXX will make itself lots of money no matter what.

I can't even find a relevant .travel or .aero domain I would ever visit. I see Utah registered a .travel, but I don't plan to visit.

how many travel sites are their out there? how many porn sites? There is probably more porn sites out there than all other industry type sites combined.

[DangerX !!!]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

     

[will76]

It's funny, everyone was " OH NO, WE CAN'T LET THIS HAPPEN" blah blah blah.. now that it happens everyone is saying " oh big deal, so what, it will just flop anyway." For how much you people think this will flop and be over with in a year or two, everyone sure got upset about the idea of it happening and wanted to fight against so hard. If it was no big deal all along why was everyone so against it?

lol you people are a piece of work, anything to make yourselves feel better i guess.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Allison

Lol. I agree. It's amazing how an industry that hates when consumers get our stuff for free is also an industry so accustomed to getting things for free or low cost. Not saying they should pay, just saying there are going to be those "oh I have to pay for this?" reactions.

If they can't afford $60 or even $600 for 10 domains they shouldn't be in business... err well they technically not in business, they just here for fun.

I'd bet most people pay up, but in reality there will likely only be 1/4 or less of that 300K registered because a lot of those domains submitted are dups.

Originally Posted by roganoli

When we think that the adult biz could not get any worse, appears this
now...

Have a question: Can I continue using my domain. com? Or I have to record this. xxx?

You need to move over to the .xxx and turn your .com in to me, thanks

[XPays]

$60 is the wholesale price, not the price that will be charged for new reg's

[Emil]

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[FetishWeb]

300,000? I see the industry boycott is working.

[acctman]

someone needs to just run a dictionary script on this ... just to fuck with them

[SGS]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Boycott is in full motion ...

lol Business as usual...

[Jack Sparrow]

Know what: why would the owner of a .com have a higher priority than someone holding the .net

Nobody thinks thats a bit strange?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by DangerX !!!

60 x 300.000 = 18.000.000

Nice chunk of monies and auctioned ones will probably give even much more...

Too bad it cost ZERO $ to pre-register. I doubt if more than 10% actually pay. As far as auctions 99.999% of those domains aren't worth $6 let alone $60.

[VikingMan]

Is there any way to verify the 300,000 figure? He could just be inflating the real number to create hype.

[gleem]

these are just webmasters hedging their bets on .xxx

[2intense]

12. How can I ensure that I get my matching .com/.net/.org etc domain in .XXX?
Priority allocation will be given to community members who hold names that were registered before 1 February 2010 (to prevent gaming) in other ICANN approved Internet extensions.

[cooldude7]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Know what: why would the owner of a .com have a higher priority than someone holding the .net

Nobody thinks thats a bit strange?

i guess bcoz everybody thinks .com owner are the kings.

[Fabien]

Well i ain't one of the 300 000's mother fuckers that went there:32 1GFY

[woj]

Why does everyone hate the .xxx guy? He just wants to make a buck just like any of us here? Came up with an idea, spent millions and fought it for years? all done through legal means? There was some shadiness about adult industry supporting it, but stuff like that is par in any biz.

Just like most here, I'm not thrilled with the outcome, but he is the first person in years that brought major changes to this industry. We'll all get fucked because of it, he will become filthy rich because of it. But don't hate the playa, hate the game... it's just capitalism at work? Nothing stopping any of us from launching .sex or .adult?

I'm not trying to sound like I'm supporting him, I'm not, but where is all the hate coming from? is there more to the story?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by woj

Why does everyone hate the .xxx guy? He just wants to make a buck just like any of us here? Came up with an idea, spent millions and fought it for years? all done through legal means? There was some shadiness about adult industry supporting it, but stuff like that is par in any biz.

Just like most here, I'm not thrilled with the outcome, but he is the first person in years that brought major changes to this industry. We'll all get fucked because of it, he will become filthy rich because of it. But don't hate the playa, hate the game... it's just capitalism at work? Nothing stopping any of us from launching .sex or .adult?

I'm not trying to sound like I'm supporting him, I'm not, but where is all the hate coming from? is there more to the story?

its a threat that could impact all of us, like tubes, those guys are out to make a buck too but they threaten the money i make, so why would i like them?

he is exploiting children by using them as a pawns in getting .xxx through.

the idea that many will feel forced to purchase these domains to protect their existing sites at a rip off rate of 10 times that of a regular domain..if you're lucky enough to get it for reg fee because if you have a well established site, there will people going after the .xxx version. even if you have the .com it looks like you will have to fight for it among people who own other tld's.

the possiblity that xxx will be used to put adult in an 'red light ghetto' that will effectively put many people out of business.

[woj]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

its a threat that could impact all of us, like tubes, those guys are out to make a buck too but they threaten the money i make, so why would i like them?

he is exploiting children by using them as a pawns in getting .xxx through.

the idea that many will feel forced to purchase these domains to protect their existing sites at a rip off rate of 10 times that of a regular domain..if you're lucky enough to get it for reg fee because if you have a well established site, there will people going after the .xxx version. even if you have the .com it looks like you will have to fight for it among people who own other tld's.

the possiblity that xxx will be used to put adult in an 'red light ghetto' that will effectively put many people out of business.

That's all true... but doesn't change the fact that what he did was 100% legal and anyone here could have done the same... while everyone was building some bullshit blogs, tube sites, etc, bitching that adult industry is hopeless, he was pushing this thing through... bringing first "innovation" to the adult industry in probably a decade... he put up a more or less a fair fight and outplayed us all...

I know it sucks, and down the road many of us will get screwed, but gotta give some credit to the guy for coming up with this brilliant plan....

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by woj

That's all true... but doesn't change the fact that what he did was 100% legal and anyone here could have done the same... while everyone was building some bullshit blogs, tube sites, etc, bitching that adult industry is hopeless, he was pushing this thing through... bringing first "innovation" to the adult industry in probably a decade... he put up a more or less a fair fight and outplayed us all...

I know it sucks, and down the road many of us we'll get screwed, but gotta give some credit to the guy for coming up with this brilliant plan....

its hardly a brilliant plan or an innovation...its a tld..there are tons of them and new ones coming out every year making millions from suckers (mostly). if .xxx goes the way of these other failed tld's, there is nothing to worry about. if it goes the other way then yeah we are screwed and thats where the hate comes from. there are plenty of ways to make money that not only don't destroy the industry but contribute. i think its a pretty stupid thing to say that because we didnt pursue it ourselves that we should be happy about it?..

[signupdamnit]

In this case the $60 wholesale price likely means it will be near the $70 (I believe that was the amount?) that Network Solutions used to charge when they had a monopoly. I think that sort of pricing is a mistake. It will create a lot of resentment among webmasters and they will fight tooth and nail if they ever do try to make it mandatory. It would have been smarter to keep the price more realistic and nearer to the industry standard rates.

I hear there is talk of additional services being offered to registrants however when I lease a domain I am doing so solely for the domain and not any additional services. Such things could end up being controversial as well. It raises potential issues. For example I have read that $10 from each purchase will go to a panel which is partially made up of major players from the industry. It seems questionable to be forced to hand over $10 to perhaps be used in ways which I do not approve of by competitors within the industry. Perhaps in ways which may be used against me. As of now this is not much an issue since it is not compulsory, however should it become so I would think this might raise some legal questions. I really wonder if ICANN has thought over such matters in detail. What kind of oversight will there be from ICANN or other bodies to ensure that the power and funds will not be used for anti-competitive activities?

[V_RocKs]

http://united.aero/
http://unitedairlines.aero/
http://american.aero/ <-- not american airlines
http://americanairlines.aero/ same as above

Delta did buy a .aero and forwards it to their .com...

As you can see if everyone says fuck that it ain't going to fly and will be a novelty item.

Stick to your .com's... The gov't isn't going to force you into a sponsored TLD. They can't as you have free speech. It ain't going anywhere people!

[V_RocKs]

Oh... I also have a suggestion. Have your employees register 10 domains a day. If 100 adult companies with 10 or more employees each do this the minimum would be 1,000,000 domains pre-registered every 100 days.... Nothing fucks shit up like spam! Trust me on this one ;)