Shock claim: Osama?s dead corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade

[Agent 488]

A multitude of different inside sources both publicly and privately, including one individual who personally worked with Bin Laden at one time, told us directly that Osama?s dead corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade and that his ?death? would only be announced at the most politically expedient time.
That time has now come with a years-old fake picture being presented as the only evidence of his alleged killing yesterday, while Bin Laden?s body has been hastily dumped into the sea to prevent anyone from finding out when he actually died.
In April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Foreign Relations member Steve R. Pieczenik, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Baker, told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been ?dead for months?.

[onwebcam]

Yesterdays interview

[cooldude7]

lol, wtf then why would they go to pakistan for ??

new target pakistan ? i guess so.


but i do agree with u , i guess its bcoz the money they spent on this.....

[2intense]

:321gfy:321gfy

[xNetworx]

Alex Jones = Capitalist

[brassmonkey]

i wouldn't be surprised lying is natural

[buzzard]

Pieczenik is absolutely astounding ...and fearless.

[PornGreen]

sounds legit

[Sly]

Why would right now be the appropriate time as opposed to any other day in the past 10 years? Bush had a lot of really bad, bad days. Why wouldn't he have used that for himself?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by PornGreen

sounds legit

that is some really dry sarcasm

[DaddyHalbucks]

Yes, best buddies GWB and Barack Obama arranged it this way to boost Obama's popularity well before the 2012 elections.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Sly

Why would right now be the appropriate time as opposed to any other day in the past 10 years? Bush had a lot of really bad, bad days. Why wouldn't he have used that for himself?

I know the answer to this.

The true powers that be told Bush that he couldn't use this because he already screwed up enough, so they kept it safe for when Obama, or the next president, would need it.

[MediaGuy]

Originally Posted by Sly

Why would right now be the appropriate time as opposed to any other day in the past 10 years? Bush had a lot of really bad, bad days. Why wouldn't he have used that for himself?

You're assuming Bush - or the president generally - was in charge.

The whole middle east seems to be a much bigger chessboard where a much bigger game is being played out - or stage where "history theatre" is enacted.

.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Sly

I know the answer to this.

The true powers that be told Bush that he couldn't use this because he already screwed up enough, so they kept it safe for when Obama, or the next president, would need it.

haha nice..

as if Bush wouldn't have made a cowboy show of it if they got him earlier...

[Sly]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

You're assuming Bush - or the president generally - was in charge.

The whole middle east seems to be a much bigger chessboard where a much bigger game is being played out - or stage where "history theatre" is enacted.

.

Certainly.

Though the question remains, why now?

[martinsc]

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Sly

Though the question remains, why now?

Can't have "Why haven't we found Osama?" being played out over the 10th anniversary of 9/11.

[ottopottomouse]

Ice floats. I hope they defrosted him properly first.

[dyna mo]

i'm concerned the ocean currents will cause the radiation spilled from japan nuclear plant disaster to sweep through the area his body was dumped, creating a radioactive super terrorist.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Ice floats. I hope they defrosted him properly first.

absolutely, the Muslim way

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm concerned the ocean currents will cause the radiation spilled from japan nuclear plant disaster to sweep through the area his body was dumped, creating a radioactive super terrorist.

Sounds about right. You should call Alex Jones and inform him of your theory. He'll run with it, no doubt! Maybe Glenn Beck will fuel this up for the brain dead audience as well. Go for it!

[bronco67]

According to Alex Jones --- nothing has ever happened in the history of the world. Everything that has ever happened is a lie perpetrated by the government.

If there was video of Bin Laden being shot from 10 angles(and there probably is), he would believe it. But he wouldn't let you know he believes it.

[chronig]

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

A multitude of different inside sources both publicly and privately, including one individual who personally worked with Bin Laden at one time, told us directly that Osama?s dead corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade and that his ?death? would only be announced at the most politically expedient time.
That time has now come with a years-old fake picture being presented as the only evidence of his alleged killing yesterday, while Bin Laden?s body has been hastily dumped into the sea to prevent anyone from finding out when he actually died.
In April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Foreign Relations member Steve R. Pieczenik, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Baker, told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been ?dead for months?.

This is true. Him and Elvis are side by side.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Yesterdays interview

Do you understand how much money i would pay to have this guy promote my sites in his voice?

[Agent 488]

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by bronco67

According to Alex Jones --- nothing has ever happened in the history of the world. Everything that has ever happened is a lie perpetrated by the government.

I don't care what the cunt says, you'd have to be mentally ill just to listen to that voice for more than 30 seconds.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

A multitude of different inside sources both publicly and privately, including one individual who personally worked with Bin Laden at one time, told us directly that Osama?s dead corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade and that his ?death? would only be announced at the most politically expedient time.
That time has now come with a years-old fake picture being presented as the only evidence of his alleged killing yesterday, while Bin Laden?s body has been hastily dumped into the sea to prevent anyone from finding out when he actually died.
In April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Foreign Relations member Steve R. Pieczenik, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Baker, told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been ?dead for months?.

nope, thats retarded. you couldnt keep a body on "ice" as it would disintegrate from the water molecules breaking down the skin sells on the body.

as well, a dead body expands, releasing of gasses... putting it ice would would not allow it to expand and pressure would be released through the skin, eyes, ears, etc., hence totally destroying the body.

the only plausible way this would be true is if the put him in some type of cryonic tank, like Walt Disney.

what? don't believe me? well you should watch the fucking discovery channel late and night and you will know this as the debunked a claim about a frozen man perfectly preserved in the ice for hundreds of years

[pornguy]

If they dumped a body into the ocean his or someone elses I am quite sure they did it in an area deep enough it can not be found and made sure it weighed a few thousand pounds.

[BFT3K]

Between getting buried, getting cremated, or being fed to the sharks, I kind of think the shark plan is the best. In the end at least you're a worthwhile part of the food chain.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by bossku69

what? don't believe me? well you should watch the fucking discovery channel late and night and you will know this as the debunked a claim about a frozen man perfectly preserved in the ice for hundreds of years

I learn all sorts of random stuff watching the TV in the middle of the night

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

hot jewish girl

[nation-x]

Let's see... someone who makes their living talking about conspiracy theories pushing conspiracy theories to idiots that spend time listening to someone who makes a living pushing conspiracy theories because they are stupid people who believe conspiracy theories... sounds like a round robin of idiots to me...

[JFK]

Originally Posted by bossku69

nope, thats retarded. you couldnt keep a body on "ice" as it would disintegrate from the water molecules breaking down the skin sells on the body.

as well, a dead body expands, releasing of gasses... putting it ice would would not allow it to expand and pressure would be released through the skin, eyes, ears, etc., hence totally destroying the body.

the only plausible way this would be true is if the put him in some type of cryonic tank, like Walt Disney.

what? don't believe me? well you should watch the fucking discovery channel late and night and you will know this as the debunked a claim about a frozen man perfectly preserved in the ice for hundreds of years

hmmm, I have seen pics of artic explorers found buried in ice after a 100 yrs or so and none of the damage you describe is showing ?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by nation-x

Let's see... someone who makes their living talking about conspiracy theories pushing conspiracy theories to idiots that spend time listening to someone who makes a living pushing conspiracy theories because they are stupid people who believe conspiracy theories... sounds like a round robin of idiots to me...

"Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=24622

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

"Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a ?conspiracy theorist?. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, ?the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,? while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush?s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=24622

funny how many ex-politicians, military men and cops are the ones who tend to spread conspiracy theories. now there is a real conspiracy right there ...

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

"Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a ?conspiracy theorist?

I think I can certainly characterize him as opportunist and a conspiracy theorist... Eight years ago, he claimed that Bin Laden was dead and on ice, and that the administration was hanging onto the body to use it as a trump card. For one thing, in order for this to work, you have to believe that Bush passed Bin Laden's dead body over to Obama after the last election instead of using it himself. (I find this? unlikely)

One interesting quirk of this particular conspiracy theory is that it performs the neat trick of bridging the vast chasm between left-wing conspiracists (who believed that Bush engineered 9/11) and right-wing conspiracists (who believe that Obama was born in Kenya). Bin Laden's body becomes the hockey puck being swapped between teams.

By definition... someone who promotes an unproven theory involving a conspiracy such as Dr. Pieczenik has done is a "conspiracy theorist". How is that hard to fathom?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by nation-x

I think I can certainly characterize him as opportunist and a conspiracy theorist... Eight years ago, he claimed that Bin Laden was dead and on ice, and that the administration was hanging onto the body to use it as a trump card. For one thing, in order for this to work, you have to believe that Bush passed Bin Laden's dead body over to Obama after the last election instead of using it himself. (I find this? unlikely)

One interesting quirk of this particular conspiracy theory is that it performs the neat trick of bridging the vast chasm between left-wing conspiracists (who believed that Bush engineered 9/11) and right-wing conspiracists (who believe that Obama was born in Kenya). Bin Laden's body becomes the hockey puck being swapped between teams.

By definition... someone who promotes an unproven theory involving a conspiracy such as Dr. Pieczenik has done is a "conspiracy theorist". How is that hard to fathom?

If Bin Laden was dead around 2001 (he was last publicly seen at an American hospital in 2001 in the company of CIA handlers to treat his deathly illness) then there would have been no justification for the Afghanistan invasion and continuation.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

he was last publicly seen at an American hospital in 2001 in the company of CIA handlers

also a conspiracy theory... do you have any reality facts or do you only know internet facts?

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

(he was last publicly seen at an American hospital in 2001 in the company of CIA handlers to treat his deathly illness)

link? proof?

you are conflating that with another conspiracy theory btw.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by nation-x

also a conspiracy theory... do you have any reality facts or do you only know internet facts?

Originally Posted by Agent 488

link? proof?

you are conflating that with another conspiracy theory btw.

CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July

French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001...stan.terrorism

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July

French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001...stan.terrorism

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-093215-2153r/



http://www.rferl.org/content/intervi.../16800723.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/osama-b...ry?id=13518880

[Mutt]

LOLOLOLOL Alex Jones - this is the clown who I posted about a couple weeks ago who was on a radio show telling people that Queen Elizabeth who is of course a big member of the Illuminati shut down the Canadian government.

sad there are people who listen to tripe

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Mutt

LOLOLOLOL Alex Jones - this is the clown who I posted about a couple weeks ago who was on a radio show telling people that Queen Elizabeth who is of course a big member of the Illuminati shut down the Canadian government.

sad there are people who listen to tripe

well her representative the Governor General, did dismiss parliament, so the new election can take place ?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by nation-x

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-093215-2153r/

http://www.rferl.org/content/intervi.../16800723.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/osama-b...ry?id=13518880

CIA unit's wacky idea: Depict Saddam as gay
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-t...deas_to_d.html


Researcher’s Analysis of al Qaeda Images Reveals Surprises
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/200...searchers-ana/

Mistranslated Osama bin Laden Video - the German Press Investigates
Author

A German TV show found that the White House's translation of the "confession" video was not only inaccurate, but even "manipulative".

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/16801


They've been faking the video's and Osama claims for years..

[d-null]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

You're assuming Bush - or the president generally - was in charge.

The whole middle east seems to be a much bigger chessboard where a much bigger game is being played out - or stage where "history theatre" is enacted.

.

this makes sense, no matter who we elect as president we quickly find out that nothing much changes and there are much greater powers behind the scenes

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July

French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001...stan.terrorism

there has never been an substantiation of that claim.

[B.Barnato]

ice ice baby