My statement about .XXX - GoFuckYourself.com

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2011, 12:22 PM

When all is said and done...
People will be buying .XXX domains and those that do will be using statements like "I had to move with the market", "The Industry has changed and with that change we bought "XXX" domains.

Then later on it will break down to "So and so was a smart business man for buying .XXX".

Watch and wait...
Slowly but surely people will break and make excuses for these business decisions and eventually they will be regarded as "Smart" and "Savey" business men, eventually they will be called bro's or something pithy.

We have seen this a million times in the business.
.XXX will be no different.

So I am going to go ahead and just say it...

Congrats Chris, Joan and Greg.
You guys have sealed your fates as the new industry leaders and legends.

Just give it some time. Things will ease up and before long guys at The Playboy's, The Twistys, The Hun's, Richards Realm's, and a handful of video companies along with The Tube sites will all dive in.

The major brands will eventually cave and dive in. Quite frankly I would not be surprised if they have not already.

All in good time.
All in good sweet time.

DWB · 05-06-2011, 12:38 PM

You are 100% correct.

helterskelter808 · 05-06-2011, 12:40 PM

I admit I don't know jack about .xxx, or rather all the politics behind it, just assumed stuff, which is why I'm asking this.

Is there something different about .xxx than other extensions? Because if not, then the people who will buy the names are surely people who will buy any other extension. Someone who wants cars.xxx or music.xxx or whatever.

I don't get it, how can this fail, when every ten a penny domain extension has succeeded before? It's a nailed on guaranteed certainty.

Is there something that's preventing people buying names like cars.xxx or music.xxx? Or are there legal or other regulations that only rude words can be bought on .xxx? Or only people who have a verifiable 'adult' business can buy them?

Serious question I have no idea. Just assumed it was a new extension like any other. In which case it really doesn't matter what the 'adult industry' thinks, because most .xxx will be sold to 'non-adult' people.

(I actually think the .xxx looks a lot cooler, for any kind of site, than .co, .ws, .nu or other shitty country code TLDs. Though I'd only buy one if I had a chance to get a decent non-adult word at reg fee cost, which is impossible due to domain pros having that sewn up.)

Brujah · 05-06-2011, 12:45 PM

Now that you put it that way...

Evil Chris · 05-06-2011, 12:47 PM

Funny how people are already greasing the boards with reasons why they think others (read: themselves) will buy into .xxx

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2011, 12:48 PM

Guys at ICM can thank me for this, because thats exactly how .XXX is going to play out. Thats how it always plays out in adult. Starting with groups and individuals it will fall in order.
They will surface, and find common friends and from there it will grow.

Good Game.

Again congrats Chris2.0.
I think I just made your job alot easier. People will read this and begin thinking of a good excuse of why they are registering .XXX.

Me and my excuse? I wont mind designing .XXX domains. Why would a designer turn away business in times like these?

I am alienq.

GFY feel free to ban this nick, I will use my other ones.

L-Pink · 05-06-2011, 12:53 PM

I had to look up "pithy' .... nice post though.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I had to look up "pithy' .... nice post though.

Why thank you.
I thought the word was a good choice quite frankly.

Frank21 · 05-06-2011, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

When all is said and done...

Watch and wait...
Slowly but surely people will break and make excuses for these business decisions and eventually they will be regarded as "Smart" and "Savey" business men, eventually they will be called bro's or something pithy.

We have seen this a million times in the business.

I find this rather amusing, somehow you have not looked at the pro's and con's of this scam. Somehow you assume that there is any bennefit in submitting to .xxx.
And give away the control over your very own website and content.

If you dont realy want to be in control oover yor own site then you may as well work as an employee for an other company instead of doing all yourself anyway.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2011, 12:59 PM

I have shifted from No, to Yes, to No again to...

I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT

B.Barnato · 05-06-2011, 01:01 PM

as with all things, after kicking up a storm people will accept it and see how they can use it to their own advantage...

see tubes

BlackCrayon · 05-06-2011, 01:08 PM

just like settling with acadia was a good business move...

Tempest · 05-06-2011, 01:18 PM

If you were the .xxx guys, what would be your next step... To lobey governments and various groups to have all porn sites have to use .xxx to protect kids. At this point all porn companies are going to have to purchase their .xxx domains to protect their brands and to be prepared for that sort of outcome. I don't see that they have much of a choice now.

Of course the eventual outcome will be even worse for all porn companies as being blocked/filtered will results in even less revenue.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2011, 01:20 PM

None of the above Tempest.

They will go for the transactions providers first. ICM gets tight with EPOCH, CCBILL, NETBILLING and its the fuck over in a heart beat.

You get the transactions providers in the pocket, and cheaper rate of approval from Visa and blamo. Its done.

Everyone falls in order because everyone follows the money.

camperjohn64 · 05-06-2011, 01:22 PM

Well I would admit that if I could buy a two letter .xxx domain, or a single word .xxx (even something obscure like boats.xxx) I would probably register it and find a use for it.

It's not like in 5 years from now domains like shoes.xxx or pasta.xxx will still be unregistered "because the .xxx tld sucks"

Far-L · 05-06-2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

just like settling with acadia was a good business move...

You beat me to it... You are right, same was said about Acacia. History proved the opposite in that example.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2011, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

You beat me to it... You are right, same was said about Acacia. History proved the opposite in that example.

True that.

helterskelter808 · 05-06-2011, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

If you were the .xxx guys, what would be your next step... To lobey governments and various groups to have all porn sites have to use .xxx to protect kids.

I keep seeing this, but don't see how that is even possible. In the US would it even be legal?

Quote:

At this point all porn companies are going to have to purchase their .xxx domains to protect their brands and to be prepared for that sort of outcome. I don't see that they have much of a choice now.

AIUI (not much) a company can block their trademark from being registered, without registering it themselves. Which if true seems to be the best way for adult companies that oppose .xxx to proceed.

Personally I think there are already way too many spurious and unnecessary extensions, like .info,. us, eu, .biz, etc. They're just a license to print money. It's the only reason they are created.

The only way I'd buy an .xxx is if a name like cars.xxx or something was available for reg fee, because it could be sold on for more. However two seconds into the Landrush period all names worth registering will be gone.

I also don't see the point in trying to run a site on .xxx because when it goes fully live, it won't just be Kenya and other third world countries banning it, but companies, governments and filter software in countries where people have credit cards.

.XXX won't fail, it will just be fairly pointless and fall into the background, like the other (non com/net/org/major ccTLD) domain extensions that have gone before it.

Rochard · 05-06-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I admit I don't know jack about .xxx, or rather all the politics behind it, just assumed stuff, which is why I'm asking this.

Is there something different about .xxx than other extensions? Because if not, then the people who will buy the names are surely people who will buy any other extension. Someone who wants cars.xxx or music.xxx or whatever.

I'm well known for bashing XXX, but the truth is XXX is more expensive because a certain amount of money is handed out others.

lazycash · 05-06-2011, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

When all is said and done...
People will be buying .XXX domains and those that do will be using statements like "I had to move with the market", "The Industry has changed and with that change we bought "XXX" domains.

Then later on it will break down to "So and so was a smart business man for buying .XXX".

Watch and wait...
Slowly but surely people will break and make excuses for these business decisions and eventually they will be regarded as "Smart" and "Savey" business men, eventually they will be called bro's or something pithy.

We have seen this a million times in the business.
.XXX will be no different.

So I am going to go ahead and just say it...

Congrats Chris, Joan and Greg.
You guys have sealed your fates as the new industry leaders and legends.

Just give it some time. Things will ease up and before long guys at The Playboy's, The Twistys, The Hun's, Richards Realm's, and a handful of video companies along with The Tube sites will all dive in.

The major brands will eventually cave and dive in. Quite frankly I would not be surprised if they have not already.

All in good time.
All in good sweet time.

I went ahead and secured ialien.xxx You can have it for $500.

DBS.US · 05-06-2011, 10:41 PM

.xxx worthless as a .us

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-06-2011, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

I went ahead and secured ialien.xxx You can have it for $500.

kane · 05-06-2011, 10:48 PM

Here is what I don't get about .xxx and why I think there may be a flaw in the OP's post.

What benefit does .xxx give a buisness? Right now there is none. Unless you plan to use the domain to develop a new site, is is meaningless and there is no reason to buy it over a .com other than you might be able to get a name that you wanted (which could lead to legal issues down the road).

So unless the government forces all sites to shift to .xxx there is no benefit to buying one so I don't see why companies would do so other than to just redirect type in traffic to an existing site.

What are the compelling reasons anyone would buy one of these domains?

Redrob · 05-06-2011, 11:38 PM

Personally, I think .xxx will go the way of .name, .coop, .travel and a host of others given time.

There is probably a sheriff in North Florida or Utah that don't want no stinking .XXX in HIS community. We shall see.

Smart money stays on the .com.

I might consider .sex or .gay as a gTLD should they come available.

Just my personal opinion.

u-Bob · 05-07-2011, 07:28 AM

.com is king...

Vendzilla · 05-07-2011, 07:34 AM

I wonder how many trademark lawsuits will happen from xxx domain grabs?

GregE · 05-07-2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

There is probably a sheriff in North Florida or Utah that don't want no stinking .XXX in HIS community.

Not probably... definitely, and in a lot of other places too including many that we tend to think of as civilized; like half of the EU.

Chosen · 05-07-2011, 10:02 AM

My statement about .XXX: Fuck it

Hotrocket · 05-07-2011, 01:40 PM

Death to .XXX

SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN · 05-07-2011, 01:53 PM

Good reading in this thread. Death to TUBES and .xxx

shade001 · 05-07-2011, 02:04 PM

I have an idea. Why don't designers and old photographers leave the adult business to those of us actually in the adult business? That way you don't sound really stupid.

Herd · 05-07-2011, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

Here is what I don't get about .xxx and why I think there may be a flaw in the OP's post.

What benefit does .xxx give a buisness? Right now there is none. Unless you plan to use the domain to develop a new site, is is meaningless and there is no reason to buy it over a .com other than you might be able to get a name that you wanted (which could lead to legal issues down the road).

So unless the government forces all sites to shift to .xxx there is no benefit to buying one so I don't see why companies would do so other than to just redirect type in traffic to an existing site.

What are the compelling reasons anyone would buy one of these domains?

There is no benefit to buy a .XXX, and ICM knows that. That is why their ultimate goal is to make its use mandatory.

The only thing that matters is if a law can be passed in a country that has freedom of speech. All the other reasons to join .XXX is totally worthless.

GonZo · 05-07-2011, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

just like settling with acadia was a good business move...

Remember those that settled in their best interest thinking they were fucking the rest of us.
Where are they all now?

plsureking · 05-07-2011, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I also don't see the point in trying to run a site on .xxx because when it goes fully live, it won't just be Kenya and other third world countries banning it, but companies, governments and filter software in countries where people have credit cards.

thats all i can think about. what an easy way to filter sites.

.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-07-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo

Remember those that settled in their best interest thinking they were fucking the rest of us.
Where are they all now?

Well...
I know a couple of them are doing just fine and still living large enjoying retirement.
Not a very good point my friend.

However most yeah I agree fell off the map went out of business or just doing something else.
In hindsight the ones that ended up settling probably only settled because they could afford it rather than deal with it.

HY2222 · 05-07-2011, 11:31 PM

A couple weeks ago, I could access porn.xxx

Today, it gives me a message from Cox Internet saying it can't find the site.

???

05-06-2011, 12:22 PM	#1
ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,241	My statement about .XXX When all is said and done... People will be buying .XXX domains and those that do will be using statements like "I had to move with the market", "The Industry has changed and with that change we bought "XXX" domains. Then later on it will break down to "So and so was a smart business man for buying .XXX". Watch and wait... Slowly but surely people will break and make excuses for these business decisions and eventually they will be regarded as "Smart" and "Savey" business men, eventually they will be called bro's or something pithy. We have seen this a million times in the business. .XXX will be no different. So I am going to go ahead and just say it... Congrats Chris, Joan and Greg. You guys have sealed your fates as the new industry leaders and legends. Just give it some time. Things will ease up and before long guys at The Playboy's, The Twistys, The Hun's, Richards Realm's, and a handful of video companies along with The Tube sites will all dive in. The major brands will eventually cave and dive in. Quite frankly I would not be surprised if they have not already. All in good time. All in good sweet time.

05-06-2011, 12:40 PM	#3
helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	I admit I don't know jack about .xxx, or rather all the politics behind it, just assumed stuff, which is why I'm asking this. Is there something different about .xxx than other extensions? Because if not, then the people who will buy the names are surely people who will buy any other extension. Someone who wants cars.xxx or music.xxx or whatever. I don't get it, how can this fail, when every ten a penny domain extension has succeeded before? It's a nailed on guaranteed certainty. Is there something that's preventing people buying names like cars.xxx or music.xxx? Or are there legal or other regulations that only rude words can be bought on .xxx? Or only people who have a verifiable 'adult' business can buy them? Serious question I have no idea. Just assumed it was a new extension like any other. In which case it really doesn't matter what the 'adult industry' thinks, because most .xxx will be sold to 'non-adult' people. (I actually think the .xxx looks a lot cooler, for any kind of site, than .co, .ws, .nu or other shitty country code TLDs. Though I'd only buy one if I had a chance to get a decent non-adult word at reg fee cost, which is impossible due to domain pros having that sewn up.) Last edited by helterskelter808; 05-06-2011 at 12:42 PM..

05-06-2011, 12:45 PM	#4
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Now that you put it that way... __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

05-06-2011, 12:47 PM	#5
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,233	Funny how people are already greasing the boards with reasons why they think others (read: themselves) will buy into .xxx __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

05-06-2011, 12:48 PM	#6
ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,241	Guys at ICM can thank me for this, because thats exactly how .XXX is going to play out. Thats how it always plays out in adult. Starting with groups and individuals it will fall in order. They will surface, and find common friends and from there it will grow. Good Game. Again congrats Chris2.0. I think I just made your job alot easier. People will read this and begin thinking of a good excuse of why they are registering .XXX. Me and my excuse? I wont mind designing .XXX domains. Why would a designer turn away business in times like these? I am alienq. GFY feel free to ban this nick, I will use my other ones. Last edited by ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-06-2011 at 12:51 PM..

05-06-2011, 12:38 PM	#2
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	You are 100% correct.

05-06-2011, 12:53 PM	#7
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	I had to look up "pithy' .... nice post though.

05-06-2011, 12:59 PM	#10
ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,241	I have shifted from No, to Yes, to No again to... I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT

05-06-2011, 01:01 PM	#11
B.Barnato So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,618	as with all things, after kicking up a storm people will accept it and see how they can use it to their own advantage... see tubes

05-06-2011, 01:08 PM	#12
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	just like settling with acadia was a good business move... __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

05-06-2011, 01:18 PM	#13
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	If you were the .xxx guys, what would be your next step... To lobey governments and various groups to have all porn sites have to use .xxx to protect kids. At this point all porn companies are going to have to purchase their .xxx domains to protect their brands and to be prepared for that sort of outcome. I don't see that they have much of a choice now. Of course the eventual outcome will be even worse for all porn companies as being blocked/filtered will results in even less revenue.

05-06-2011, 01:20 PM	#14
ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,241	None of the above Tempest. They will go for the transactions providers first. ICM gets tight with EPOCH, CCBILL, NETBILLING and its the fuck over in a heart beat. You get the transactions providers in the pocket, and cheaper rate of approval from Visa and blamo. Its done. Everyone falls in order because everyone follows the money. Last edited by ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-06-2011 at 01:22 PM..

05-06-2011, 01:22 PM	#15
camperjohn64 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,531	Well I would admit that if I could buy a two letter .xxx domain, or a single word .xxx (even something obscure like boats.xxx) I would probably register it and find a use for it. It's not like in 5 years from now domains like shoes.xxx or pasta.xxx will still be unregistered "because the .xxx tld sucks" __________________ www.gimmiegirlproductions.com

05-06-2011, 10:41 PM	#21
DBS.US Geo Cities Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA Posts: 11,832	.xxx worthless as a .us __________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight

05-06-2011, 10:48 PM	#23
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Here is what I don't get about .xxx and why I think there may be a flaw in the OP's post. What benefit does .xxx give a buisness? Right now there is none. Unless you plan to use the domain to develop a new site, is is meaningless and there is no reason to buy it over a .com other than you might be able to get a name that you wanted (which could lead to legal issues down the road). So unless the government forces all sites to shift to .xxx there is no benefit to buying one so I don't see why companies would do so other than to just redirect type in traffic to an existing site. What are the compelling reasons anyone would buy one of these domains?

05-06-2011, 11:38 PM	#24
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Personally, I think .xxx will go the way of .name, .coop, .travel and a host of others given time. There is probably a sheriff in North Florida or Utah that don't want no stinking .XXX in HIS community. We shall see. Smart money stays on the .com. I might consider .sex or .gay as a gTLD should they come available. Just my personal opinion.

05-07-2011, 07:28 AM	#25
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	.com is king...

05-07-2011, 07:34 AM	#26
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	I wonder how many trademark lawsuits will happen from xxx domain grabs? __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

05-07-2011, 10:02 AM	#28
Chosen VIPPay.com \| AdultWebSponsors.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 63,151	My statement about .XXX: Fuck it

05-07-2011, 01:40 PM	#29
Hotrocket Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,327	Death to .XXX

05-07-2011, 01:53 PM	#30
SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Scottsdale Arizona Posts: 1,100	Good reading in this thread. Death to TUBES and .xxx

05-07-2011, 02:04 PM	#31
shade001 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 396	I have an idea. Why don't designers and old photographers leave the adult business to those of us actually in the adult business? That way you don't sound really stupid.

05-07-2011, 11:31 PM	#36
HY2222 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 22	A couple weeks ago, I could access porn.xxx Today, it gives me a message from Cox Internet saying it can't find the site. ???