Organized Religion

[Rangermoore]

This is another reason why I do not believe in organized religion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...navy-seal-tale

[CyberHustler]

How/why does a lying pastor make you not believe in people organzing for religious purposes?

Sounds as goofy as religious nuts against porn...

[alias]

What a douche, hail Satan.

[12clicks]

Why do all of the anti-religion proclamations come from our least intelligent?

[Rangermoore]

Originally Posted by Dedi

How/why does a lying pastor make you not believe in people organizing for religious purposes?

Sounds as goofy as religious nuts against porn...

I don't need someone telling me how to live my life from the pulpit and then the same person goes out and does things like this or worse in some cases. To me if every religion is "The" correct one the which is the "Wrong" one... They ALL say "They" are the "Right" one. Just my thoughts...

[BlackCrayon]

organized religion is just a tax free business. its snake oil..its like selling penis pills.

[Rangermoore]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

organized religion is just a tax free business. its snake oil..its like selling penis pills.

Right on..! You hit the nail on the head...

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

I don't need someone telling me how to live my life from the pulpit and then the same person goes out and does things like this or worse in some cases. To me if every religion is "The" correct one the which is the "Wrong" one... They ALL say "They" are the "Right" one. Just my thoughts...

Not every religion is the way you think they are... You might want to do research on shit before you just start hating everything associated with it

[Rangermoore]

Originally Posted by Dedi

Not every religion is the way you think they are... You might want to do research on shit before you just start hating everything associated with it

Never did I use the word hate you did.... Your a good example of what I am talking about... Have a nice day...

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Religion always has sex issues.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

I don't need someone telling me how to live my life from the pulpit and then the same person goes out and does things like this or worse in some cases. To me if every religion is "The" correct one the which is the "Wrong" one... They ALL say "They" are the "Right" one. Just my thoughts...

Judge not, lest ye be judged. Judgement of others is the pride of sinners.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

Never did I use the word hate you did.... Your a good example of what I am talking about... Have a nice day...

Im not religous at all, I'm agnostic. I basically couldn't give one less fuck if there is or isn't a god... So I'm not an example of a damn thing you're talking about homie. And if you want to play semantics, I didn't say you used the word hate.

Anyway, maybe I shouldn't believe in rangers since they're all beedy eyed mindless killing machines who think they're better than the rest of the army because they really think they can survive in an igloo in antartica for 2 weeks with nothing but a cricket leg, a cotton string, and a teaspoon of saltwater.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by Dedi

Im not religous at all, I'm agnostic. I basically couldn't give one less fuck if there is or isn't a god... So I'm not an example of a damn thing you're talking about homie. And if you want to play semantics, I didn't say you used the word hate.

Anyway, maybe I shouldn't believe in rangers since they're all beedy eyed mindless killing machines who think they're better than the rest of the army because they really think they can survive in an igloo in antartica for 2 weeks with nothing but a cricket leg, a cotton string, and a teaspoon of saltwater.

Rangers are wimps. I could kill you with 3 grains of sand, my ballsack and a half full single serve dairy creamer.

[CaptainHowdy]

I'm just here for the beauf statements on religion ...

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Judge not, lest ye be judged. Judgement of others is the pride of sinners.

True.

OT: Also slamming ALL of religion for some douchebags that use religion as a cover for their base motivations is like condemning all burritos cuz you didn't like the quality of Taco Bell's gut rockets.

[LiveDose]

I have no problem with organized religion, just keep it to yourselves. I don't appreciate the idiotic 'Jesus saves' bumper stickers.

[cam_girls]

There's no such thing as religion.

If 1,000,000,000 people believe the son of God will live again then where are the welcome parades?

Where's the Divinity Test? How do you inform the Pope?

The bible says to SEARCH for God, not to wait for him to give you everything you want.

No-one gives a fuck about God or whether he is alive in human form or not.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

This is another reason why I do not believe in organized religion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...navy-seal-tale

Matthew 7:1-3
1Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged,
and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye
and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

This is another reason why I do not believe in organized religion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...navy-seal-tale

So if I found you some athiests caught lying would that then make you believe? That's how stupid your logic is.

[onwebcam]

not surprising..

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by LiveDose

I have no problem with organized religion, just keep it to yourselves. I don't appreciate the idiotic 'Jesus saves' bumper stickers.

even better are the 'life is sacred..from conception to natural death' ones.

what a fucking slogan to put on your car.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Why do all of the anti-religion proclamations come from our least intelligent?

93% of the National Academy of Sciences are non-believers. How can someone believe something with absolutely zero evidence and still claim to be intelligent?

Originally Posted by lazycash

So if I found you some athiests caught lying would that then make you believe? That's how stupid your logic is.

Most atheists don't stand before a congregation and make up bullshit stories with the goal of soliciting donations. His logic isn't flawed. Yours is.

[Rangermoore]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

93% of the National Academy of Sciences are non-believers. How can someone believe something with absolutely zero evidence and still claim to be intelligent?



Most atheists don't stand before a congregation and make up bullshit stories with the goal of soliciting donations. His logic isn't flawed. Yours is.

Thank You !...

[wig]

Aside from the extremely low probability of a given religion being true, what bothers me is the barrier the religious erect making it wrong or disrespectful to criticize or to "look under the hood".

This doesn't happen in any other domain.

It's taken for granted that the religious can visit the dying in hospitals explaining to them how if they just accept Jesus or whoever they will be forgiven and go to heaven and avoid eternal torment.

But, it would be considered outrageous and in the poorest of taste if atheists went around to hospitals visiting the dying believers telling them that they have wasted their whole lives on a false belief but that there was still time to die in peace by letting go of all the guilt they've carried around for years as well as avoiding the anxiety of whether they were going to burn in hell or not after death.

[CurrentlySober]

I cant afford to go to church.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

93% of the National Academy of Sciences are non-believers. How can someone believe something with absolutely zero evidence and still claim to be intelligent?

There isn't absolutely zero evidence, which is why you're a moron in the first place.

Most atheists don't stand before a congregation and make up bullshit stories with the goal of soliciting donations. His logic isn't flawed. Yours is.

This is a hilarious statement considering this is prevalent on online forums, especially this one where porn peddlers need to justify their life choices by condemning religion.

But, it would be considered outrageous and in the poorest of taste if atheists went around to hospitals visiting the dying believers telling them that they have wasted their whole lives on a false belief but that there was still time to die in peace by letting go of all the guilt they've carried around for years as well as avoiding the anxiety of whether they were going to burn in hell or not after death.

For someone of your intelligence, this is one hell of a moronic statement. At least ATTEMPT to be on point as to why this happens (Hint: you're not). It has nothing to do with religion, instead it's courteous to be positive to someone who is facing death. You don't even have to mention Jesus and they'll let you in the hospital. Again, really idiotic statement.

[Tom_PM]

You have a problem with your eternal life.. step right this way for the cure.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by The Demon

There isn't absolutely zero evidence, which is why you're a moron in the first place.





This is a hilarious statement considering this is prevalent on online forums, especially this one where porn peddlers need to justify their life choices by condemning religion.


For someone of your intelligence, this is one hell of a moronic statement. At least ATTEMPT to be on point as to why this happens (Hint: you're not). It has nothing to do with religion, instead it's courteous to be positive to someone who is facing death. You don't even have to mention Jesus and they'll let you in the hospital. Again, really idiotic statement.

Oh shut it, troll.

[wig]

Originally Posted by The Demon

For someone of your intelligence, this is one hell of a moronic statement. At least ATTEMPT to be on point as to why this happens (Hint: you're not). It has nothing to do with religion, instead it's courteous to be positive to someone who is facing death. You don't even have to mention Jesus and they'll let you in the hospital. Again, really idiotic statement.

Yeah, right. And door knockers are not engaged in proselytizing and missionaries are not engaged in converting the poor, desperate and uneducated.

Wanting to proselytize at someone's deathbed is anything but courteous.

My statement has nothing to do with anyone who visits the dying without engaging in such activity.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Oh shut it, troll.

IF we want to laugh at a moron, we'd ask you to post.

Yeah, right. And door knockers are not engaged in proselytizing and missionaries are not engaged in converting the poor, desperate and uneducated.

Nice irrelevant misdirection.

Wanting to proselytize at someone's deathbed is anything but courteous.

Giving someone hope as opposed to saying "You're dying" is why they're let in, not because they're religious and there's a conspiracy against the atheists.

My statement has nothing to do with anyone who visits the dying without engaging in such activity.
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Sure it doesn't.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Most atheists don't stand before a congregation and make up bullshit stories with the goal of soliciting donations. His logic isn't flawed. Yours is.

I was referring to the logic of basing one's belief system based on the actions of one man and one incident as the op inferred.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

You have a problem with your eternal life.. step right this way for the cure.

And dont forget to give 10% of your income BEFORE taxes. You know, cause god needs a new car.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by pornguy

And dont forget to give 10% of your income BEFORE taxes. You know, cause god needs a new car.

Oh yes, because belief in God is somehow a requirement for giving charity.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by The Demon

For someone of your intelligence, this is one hell of a moronic statement. At least ATTEMPT to be on point as to why this happens (Hint: you're not). It has nothing to do with religion, instead it's courteous to be positive to someone who is facing death. You don't even have to mention Jesus and they'll let you in the hospital. Again, really idiotic statement.

It shouldn't happen unless requested.. end of story. Why anyone would think otherwise is insane. Trying to 'save their soul' is not positive to anyone who is not receptive to it. Its actually negative.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

It shouldn't happen unless requested.. end of story. Why anyone would think otherwise is insane. Trying to 'save their soul' is not positive to anyone who is not receptive to it. Its actually negative.

Sure, I can agree to that. But the initial point it seems was that it included religious, whether by request or not.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

This is another reason why I do not believe in organized religion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...navy-seal-tale

bad new for you then: organized religion exist

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

93% of the National Academy of Sciences are non-believers. How can someone believe something with absolutely zero evidence and still claim to be intelligent?

this is the same group who believes in man made global warming. they have zero evidence and still claim to be intelligent

[wig]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Giving someone hope as opposed to saying "You're dying" is why they're let in, not because they're religious and there's a conspiracy against the atheists.

Strawman. I said that when someone calls religious people out on proselytizing to the dying, they cry disrespect. I didn't say anything against people (sectarian or non-sectarian) providing hope.

I said nothing about conspiracy against atheists. I said that if atheists were to "reverse proselytize" people would be up in arms and rightly so.

It's a double standard and falls under my complaint that the religious erect this barrier around them that is designed to prevent criticism.

Sure it doesn't.

That's right, it doesn't. But if it helps you to believe otherwise, go for it.

[wig]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

this is the same group who believes in man made global warming. they have zero evidence and still claim to be intelligent

As an example, they have readings from ice cores going back 600,000 years that show that temperature and carbon dioxide levels have oscillated in parallel.

So to say there is zero evidence is just false.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by wig

As an example, they have readings from ice cores going back 600,000 years that show that temperature and carbon dioxide levels have oscillated in parallel.

So to say there is zero evidence is just false.

you'd have a point if I were talking about natural temperature and carbon dioxide levels.
I wasn't.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by wig

Strawman. I said that when someone calls religious people out on proselytizing to the dying, they cry disrespect. I didn't say anything against people (sectarian or non-sectarian) providing hope.

It's not a strawman because this wasn't your initial stance. You pretty much generalized at first, so no.

I said nothing about conspiracy against atheists. I said that if atheists were to "reverse proselytize" people would be up in arms and rightly so.

I never said you did.

[wig]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

you'd have a point if I were talking about natural temperature and carbon dioxide levels.
I wasn't.

I'm not sure what you mean.

The point is that there seems to be evidence that when carbon dioxide levels rise, so does the temperature. The mechanism for this is known.

Is it in dispute that human activity adds additional carbon dioxide into the atmosphere?

[wig]

Originally Posted by The Demon

It's not a strawman because this wasn't your initial stance. You pretty much generalized at first, so no.

Well it appears you either misread what I wrote initially or read something extra into it.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by wig

I'm not sure what you mean.

I know

Originally Posted by wig

The point is that there seems to be evidence that when carbon dioxide levels rise, so does the temperature. The mechanism for this is known.

thats not the point. is irrelevant to my post and also irrelevant to the "humans cause climate change" argument.

Originally Posted by wig

Is it in dispute that human activity adds additional carbon dioxide into the atmosphere?

its in dispute that the tiny amount that human activity adds effects the environment at all.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by wig

Well it appears you either misread what I wrote initially or read something extra into it.

Wanting to proselytize at someone's deathbed is anything but courteous

This implies that it's automatically against the patient's will rather than a request.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

this is the same group who believes in man made global warming. they have zero evidence and still claim to be intelligent

in defense of scientists I would say that number is a bit lower now at least

[wig]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

I know


thats not the point. is irrelevant to my post and also irrelevant to the "humans cause climate change" argument.



its in dispute that the tiny amount that human activity adds effects the environment at all.

well if you want to share the info, I'd like to read up and understand why the top scientists in the world are confused on this but you are not.

[wig]

Originally Posted by The Demon

This implies that it's automatically against the patient's will rather than a request.

bad assumption on your part.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by wig

bad assumption on your part.

Logical assumption on my part. Unless specifically clarified, you grouped everyone together.

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