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Old 06-14-2011, 06:07 AM   #1
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Are these normal stats? No one buy adult?

Hi guys,

I have started promoting a stuff of 247mg.com and here are the stats. The traffic is very targeted and they usually buy things.

I don't know what to do.. Even not a 1 single signup for 3K+ unique targeted hits. However there are bunch of submits 25+ but no signup at all.. any guys can suggest me any good? I can't post screen shot here I have taken as I don't have 30 posts ;)

I can drive lots of traffic but with such stats I'm fed up.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:10 AM   #2
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Sales are depending on many different factors.
I guess you have mostly south asian traffic, which is never converted very well
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:18 AM   #3
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:21 AM   #4
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Hi guys,

I have started promoting a stuff of 247mg.com and here are the stats. The traffic is very targeted and they usually buy things.

I don't know what to do.. Even not a 1 single signup for 3K+ unique targeted hits. However there are bunch of submits 25+ but no signup at all.. any guys can suggest me any good? I can't post screen shot here I have taken as I don't have 30 posts ;)

I can drive lots of traffic but with such stats I'm fed up.
check cookies and tracking urls, sometimes programs do shady stuff and other times their programers are fucking retards

other times, people just dont buy.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:21 AM   #5
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Sales are depending on many different factors.
I guess you have mostly south asian traffic, which is never converted very well
What he said
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:23 AM   #6
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It all depends on your traffic but I've found Indian sites can be tough converters. You get truckloads of traffic from regions with low income and a very low percentage of credit cards. So easier to get traffic but a much lower percentage of buyers.

- What countries make up the bulk of the traffic?
- What do you mean by targeted traffic? There will be a huge variance based of the search terms
- How is the traffic filtered before hitting the paysite?


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Old 06-14-2011, 10:52 AM   #7
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25 submits and no sales? Something sounds fishy.
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Parking here as I try to convert them too
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:22 PM   #9
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Unfortunately 0:3000 isn't that unusual these days.
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:58 PM   #11
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Here are the stats:-

5035 Raw hits
3023 Uniqe Hits

2031 Join page visitors
30 submits

I have talked to 247mg.com guy and he said that 2 guys tried to purchase but their epoch declined. And those who are saying that traffic is hard to convert is not true. My traffic is not only from south India. Most of the traffic is from US, UK and rich arab countries.

I have no idea what to do. 2 employees are working full time here for promoting this stuff hard way. lots of work involved. preparing videos uploading etc..

Anyone can suggest me anything good?
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:17 PM   #12
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Try different sponsors/sites?

FYI: Some niches I have people buying 1/2 of the "submits" or "tries" (ie: 30 submits and 14-15 sales), other niches there are 100+ "submits" and no sales. I don't understand that yet, I just think some surfers in certain niches are trying to signup without a credit card. A "try" or "submit" is usually considered someone who filled in the user/pass/email fields but failed to follow through on the CC part of the signup process..
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You are in a tough region for fraud.

We've seen stolen credit card use soar last couple months.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:28 PM   #14
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Try different sponsors/sites?

FYI: Some niches I have people buying 1/2 of the "submits" or "tries" (ie: 30 submits and 14-15 sales), other niches there are 100+ "submits" and no sales. I don't understand that yet, I just think some surfers in certain niches are trying to signup without a credit card. A "try" or "submit" is usually considered someone who filled in the user/pass/email fields but failed to follow through on the CC part of the signup process..

There are not much options. I'm in to Indian niche.. and I'm promoting this stuff from past 3 years for my client and he used to pay me for the same but now he got busy and I'm doing the same thing myself but NO conversions?

How the heck he were paying me from 3 long years? Please SPAM ME WITH GOOD CONVERTING INDIAN PROGRAMS.
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are you only looking to promote indian stuff?

we have some pretty unique stuff and would love to run some tests with you...
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There are not much options. I'm in to Indian niche.. and I'm promoting this stuff from past 3 years for my client and he used to pay me for the same but now he got busy and I'm doing the same thing myself but NO conversions?

How the heck he were paying me from 3 long years? Please SPAM ME WITH GOOD CONVERTING INDIAN PROGRAMS.
Damn, I don't know shit about converting indian traffic buddy. Good luck to you. My best advice would be to make a list of every sponsor/site you can possibly try, give them each a through test with the traffic one by one.

PS: sounds like your client knew it wasn't profitable anymore and got out? That may not be the case but just throwing that out there in case you haven't thought it.
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are you only looking to promote indian stuff?

we have some pretty unique stuff and would love to run some tests with you...
Yes I'm trying to promote Indian porn sites or any pay per free signup programs. Please please please help me. I can drive ton of traffic. just need a converting shit
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Damn, I don't know shit about converting indian traffic buddy. Good luck to you. My best advice would be to make a list of every sponsor/site you can possibly try, give them each a through test with the traffic one by one.

PS: sounds like your client knew it wasn't profitable anymore and got out? That may not be the case but just throwing that out there in case you haven't thought it.
No thats not Indian traffic buddy thats US traffic and no that guy got some personal problems so he is buzy and may be he might come back.
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No thats not Indian traffic buddy thats US traffic and no that guy got some personal problems so he is buzy and may be he might come back.
Ah, gotcha.
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Let me jump into this with some fact. Dheer is one of our affiliates and one of tech tried to solve his problem out.

He say he is sending targeted traffic. For info all this traffic is coming from YouTube which is totally a Freebies traffic thats why he is facing problem in converting traffic in to signup.

First my tech tried to explain him whaty exctly submit mean bcz he is not aware with NATS4 and its stats.

30 Submit but all declined by billers and mostly traffic from Tanzania and few from India. Tanzania is high risk traffic and most biller mostly decline those...

Indian traffic is hard to convery but we are doing well thats why we are growing.. we are not silly to keep investing in this niche if we are not making any thing from it... Make Sense?

This is what he wrote to us:

2031 Join page visitors
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What is 30 submits? it is not cleared at your stats. please reply at this thread https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1026501

We are still try to help him, buddy you should contact us first before start panicing.
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dpapa.... dheer.... what's up with your board names? What do they mean?
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Most of the traffic is from US, UK and rich arab countries
Have you checked the nature of your traffic. Sounds like bots to me.
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Most of the traffic is from US, UK and rich arab countries....

As affiliate ITS IMPOSSIBLE for affiliate " dheer " to find out where the traffic is coming from bcz he is gettign all traffic from YOUTUBE.com no site or any tgp or any blog what so ever.

He is just using a redirect from his domain desimum.com which i think he is stop from now on.

youtube.com traffic is totally a freebies like TUBES site who is killing this industry
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Let me jump into this with some fact. Dheer is one of our affiliates and one of tech tried to solve his problem out.

He say he is sending targeted traffic. For info all this traffic is coming from YouTube which is totally a Freebies traffic thats why he is facing problem in converting traffic in to signup.

First my tech tried to explain him whaty exctly submit mean bcz he is not aware with NATS4 and its stats.

30 Submit but all declined by billers and mostly traffic from Tanzania and few from India. Tanzania is high risk traffic and most biller mostly decline those...

Indian traffic is hard to convery but we are doing well thats why we are growing.. we are not silly to keep investing in this niche if we are not making any thing from it... Make Sense?

This is what he wrote to us:

2031 Join page visitors
30 submits

What is 30 submits? it is not cleared at your stats. please reply at this thread

We are still try to help him, buddy you should contact us first before start panicing.

thanks for your reply but my server records each and every IP. If you want I can upload today's all hits to you to see from where they comes. also earlier when we talked over AIM you told me that only 2 guys tried to submit and 1 was from US and the other from Tanzania but here you said that there were 30 submits and none of them approved which seems strange to me.

I have all the IP logs where you can check from which country visitors are coming from. Most of my traffic comes from USA, UK and Arab countries and some of them from India too.
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Sure i wil love to see and i will show you of all yoru submit and you will find out where the traffic is coming from and use who submit the form actually where they from.
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Most of the traffic is from US, UK and rich arab countries....

As affiliate ITS IMPOSSIBLE for affiliate " dheer " to find out where the traffic is coming from bcz he is gettign all traffic from YOUTUBE.com no site or any tgp or any blog what so ever.

He is just using a redirect from his domain desimum.com which i think he is stop from now on.

youtube.com traffic is totally a freebies like TUBES site who is killing this industry
Not true sir. I have tracker installed on my server and I'm not domain redirecting each and every IP logs on my server. If you want I can send you all logs.
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Unfortunately 0:3000 isn't that unusual these days.
I had a 1:10 000 on a babe/glamor sponsor so yeah, not that weird. As everybody else already pointed out, not easy to convert traffic from south asian countries
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Sure i wil love to see and i will show you of all yoru submit and you will find out where the traffic is coming from and use who submit the form actually where they from.
I don't know how to post here. I have sent you an email with today's stats. Please check out
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thanks but I'm not a fool who will keep sending traffic which does not convert. I'm just talking to one of their tech guy and he is not really satisfying me with the answer. I have literally asked him so many times to tell me if 30 pplz filled their credit card infos to buy their program and all 30 declined. He is not answering my this query and just suggesting me to promote their other sites ;).

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Most of the traffic is from US, UK and rich arab countries. As affiliate its impossible for you to find otu where the traffic is coming from

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No not impossible
I have IP ranges
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and I have records u want to check them?

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you took it wrong
I never tried to harm but I have just reported

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how you know traffic is coming from UK, USA and ARAB COUNTRIES?

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you did not told me that your epoch declined 30 submits
u said there were only 2 joins
but in fact there were 30 submits which you accepted on GFY thread
30 submits and your paypment system declined all? how can taht possible?

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could you plz focus on what I have asked.. sir

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here

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you did not told me that your epoch declined 30 submits
u said there were only 2 joins
but in fact there were 30 submits which you accepted on GFY thread
30 submits and your paypment system declined all? how can taht possible?

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we will review you email

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if you need any help let me know as said earlier. On gfy my boss is there and he is not going to reply in yoru thread any more. If you need any thing come here or else stop using us if you not satisfied.

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well you are not clear
I'm asking u something but you not replying

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if you need i will give u list of 30 submits so u will have better idea where they from but we are unable to give u why the decline bcz its only with billers

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I'm an affilite and eqal partner I'm sending my traffic
and I have every rights to know
so you are accepting now that 30 pplz tried to submit theyr credit cards
to buy your program
am I right?

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i hope you have read all post from other peopl eon GFY that al depend on traffic and qulaity of traffic its not only you.

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you still did not answer sir

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you are working with toughest niche which is risk and people do use fraud credit card alot... alot mean alot
4 out of 10 use fraud cards

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I said are there 30 guys who tried to buy?
and your payment processor declined?

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one thing i would say try indian hidden cams and mysexyneha.com
u just doing with desipapa

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you still did not answer
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GFY. You should atleast be honest. I dont mind seeing these chat logs here. Any one who read those logs still say India Traffi cwotn convert SPECIALLY coming from YOUTUBE.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:00 AM   #33
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^^ I'm wondering how come stats showing 30 submits? That means nats4 got a bug? or I'm missing something.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:24 AM   #34
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This is so cool - love when these threads get down to brass tacks with no name calling
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:59 AM   #35
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30 SUBMITS, no sign ups? Damn, the man submitted 30 fresh credit card numbers couldn't you at least have the moral decency to approve one submission...

you do have a nice $$VALUABLE$$ bundle of credit card numbers now thanks to his hard work in getting them submitted....
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:08 AM   #36
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dheer,

How can I contact you about a different topic? There is no contact info listed on your profile.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:55 AM   #37
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dheer,

How can I contact you about a different topic? There is no contact info listed on your profile.
hi,

contact me on AIM:- dheerajblaze or skype:- dhpd22
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