My checking acct was compromised today (fraud) to "Online World Entertainment" (Pic of check)

[Vjo]

The Bank Name (which is my bank) is blacked out. The check was cropped to remove my routing and acct numbers but trust me they were exactly mine.

Pre processing came in today for $29.95. I figured porn site fraud. Was waiting along with my bank until we got more info. Now I got it. So will put a stop on this tomorrow.

Obviously a phoney name and city but they have my acct and routng numbers.

And what is with this no signature required bs? Who is Online World Entertainment? Did a search to no avail.

Know this guy?





The company who deposited it left their account number endorsement which I blacked out.

What do you banking experts think.

[Vjo]

Actually this happened once before about 2 years back. So my acct is in the "pool" and only gets used once in a while. Last time it was a porn site and an electronic check. I called the biller and got it refunded.

Being a check it can always be sent back but I guess you really should not pay much by check. Somewhere along the line someone jotted down my info.

[uno]

Happened twice to me. 2 different company names, both used my real name and checking account/routing numbers, but with bogus locations. Both had the same MO. 29.95, porn membership, number they gave to call/cancel said they'd refund it and they didn't. I had my bank issue refunds for both and filed a complaint. I never heard anything more about it.

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by uno

Happened twice to me. 2 different company names, both used my real name and checking account/routing numbers, but with bogus locations. Both had the same MO. 29.95, porn membership, number they gave to call/cancel said they'd refund it and they didn't. I had my bank issue refunds for both and filed a complaint. I never heard anything more about it.

Wow, yeah the first time the billers name was on the electronic check. I forget who it was. A real odd biller. But they did indeed refund it.

So I shouldn't have a prob getting it sent back tomorrow as it is obviously not my name on the check or even the same state.

But thanks, good to know I am not alone.

Like I say it doesnt happen much so I'm tempted just to keep the acct. They dont have my debit card numbers. Only the checking account number and routing number. Which is enough.

They dont try to use my name. Just any old name and address with the routing and checking numbers and a use a printer to print phoney checks.

[96ukssob]

this happened to me a few years back. paid some bill with a check, they claim they never got it, sent another one and a few weeks later Im seeing checks written with my banking info but someone else name.

all they did was go to staples and buy $30 checks and software and ripped mine off

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Vjo

Wow, yeah the first time the billers name was on the electronic check. I forget who it was. A real odd biller. But they did indeed refund it.

So I shouldn't have a prob getting it sent back tomorrow as it is obviously not my name on the check or even the same state.

But thanks, good to know I am not alone.

Woah, this exact same thing happened to me last week. I have chase so I had to change account numbers. Same company, that copy of a check is not what they actually used, they did it via ach that check is not what they used, its representative of the ach. Was it deposited into a Bank of America account?

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by bossku69

this happened to me a few years back. paid some bill with a check, they claim they never got it, sent another one and a few weeks later Im seeing checks written with my banking info but someone else name.

all they did was go to staples and buy $30 checks and software and ripped mine off

Yeah the system is really easy to defraud. Anyone who gets a check from you (your landlord for example) has it. Thing is it always gets sent back and the last guy holding the check before the perpetrator gets stuck. In this case Online World Entertainment.

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Choker

Woah, this exact same thing happened to me last week. I have chase so I had to change account numbers. Same company, that copy of a check is not what they actually used, they did it via ach that check is not what they used, its representative of the ach. Was it deposited into a Bank of America account?

Nope wasnt BofA. Ok, so yours was also with Online World Entertainment? Wouldnt mine be an actual check since I have a copy of a check?

Anyhow seems to be a very common occurence now days. Fraud all over. Prob dont even do any good to chg acct numbers. They prob got it all cracked.

It doesnt happen often and thankfully they are only after a porn or entertainment quick fix before the paper trail comes back and someone gets stuck.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Vjo

Nope wasnt BofA. Ok, so yours was also with Online World Entertainment? Wouldnt mine be an actual check since I have a copy of a check?

Anyhow seems to be a very common ocurrence now days. Fraud all over. Prob dont even do any good to chg acct numbers. They prob got it all cracked. It doesnt happen often and thankfully they are only after a porn or entertainment quick fix before the paper trail comes back and someone gets stuck.

Yes it was Online World Entertainment, and you have a copy because the bank generates a check for every electronic withdrawel. Is your bank Chase? If so I would say Chase has had bank account numbers hacked.

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Choker

Yes it was Online World Entertainment, and you have a copy because the bank generates a check for every electronic withdrawel. Is your bank Chase? If so I would say Chase has had bank account numbers hacked.

Ok thanks. Very interesting we both had Online World Entertainment. And no it was not Chase.

Ok so it was an electronic withdrawl. Ok that makes more sense.

Yeah cause if they were actually printing checks they might as well do more than just get porn electronicly. Since they dont have my ID they really cant pass a real paper check unless they deposited it to their own bank account. Which would bring bank fraud right to them. So yes that makes more sense.

Still both times they paid Online World Entertainment which is weird.

[adultzone]

Good thing I don't have checking account in US

[Konda]

It's like banging cards, but it's banging checking accounts

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

Happened to me too!

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo Risin

Happened to me too!

Same comany? On the back of the echeck it was depsoited to a BOA bank account. If others show other banks then its a big scam, not just one guy doing this.

[Agent 488]

maybe there are cross-sales on your utility bills.

[Sharky]

Damn. a google search came up with this:

http://camgirltweet.com/Salmagirl

sounds like others in adult were hit too

[Agent 488]

odd that there isn't much on the web but people got involved in adult got hit?

sounds like an inside job.

maybe some company who has your bank account info?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

odd that there isn't much on the web but people got involved in adult got hit?

sounds like an inside job.

maybe some company who has your bank account info?

and who would that be? affiliate programs! hard to say if its one (or more) that went belly up or just some shady motherfuckers..

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

odd that there isn't much on the web but people got involved in adult got hit?

sounds like an inside job.

maybe some company who has your bank account info?

Most likely a sponsor he has setup on ach payout where he had to input his checking account number and routing number.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by lazycash

Most likely a sponsor he has setup on ach payout where he had to input his checking account number and routing number.

what i was thinking.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

maybe there are cross-sales on your utility bills.

[Tom_PM]

OWE.. Name was probably chosen just to give the person the giggles at the initials.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

odd that there isn't much on the web but people got involved in adult got hit?

sounds like an inside job.

maybe some company who has your bank account info?

And just so happens to have others on this board account numbers? Not likely, and this was my personal checking account, so it's not a sponsor or anyone in adult, I never give out my personal account numbers to anyone I do business with. The only new person i started writing personal checks to is my pool service. LOL. I think one of the following companies had their databases hacked : Verizon, Brighthouse Networks, IRS, Chase, my pool service. LOL, that's the only companies I write checks to from the account that got hit.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Choker

And just so happens to have others on this board account numbers? Not likely, and this was my personal checking account, so it's not a sponsor or anyone in adult, I never give out my personal account numbers to anyone I do business with. The only new person i started writing personal checks to is my pool service. LOL. I think one of the following companies had their databases hacked : Verizon, Brighthouse Networks, IRS, Chase, my pool service. LOL, that's the only companies I write checks to from the account that got hit.

keylogger. phishing.

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

Something's fishy here. I haven't been active in the adult industry for years, but after I couldn't find the company name via Google, this is the first place I came and did a search and found this thread.

Is Adult Check still fucking me? It could be some non adult company, but anyone never in the industry getting defrauded too?

I've done some searching on various non adult sites/boards and can't find anything.

I've given my checking account info to many sponsors for the convenience of ACH. I've also given it to Epassporte, Web Legal, Google Ad Sense, PayPal, Amazon, etc. etc.

Who knows who the culprit is and/or who got hacked. I would like to know though. The company name seems to be bogus and there's no phone number to contact.

So, out of an abundance of caution, I guess I will have to close my checking account I've had for many years.

These transactions occurred on the 12th, for everyone one? 6 days ago...

[Choker]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

keylogger. phishing.

I've never entered my personal banking account numbers on any computer. And I have never given this account number to any sponsor. Sponsors have my business account naumbers, but this electronic payment was on my personal bank account. So its not a sponsor.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Choker

I've never entered my personal banking account numbers on any computer. And I have never given this account number to any sponsor. Sponsors have my business account naumbers, but this electronic payment was on my personal bank account. So its not a sponsor.

odd there is zero complaints outside of gfy. if there was a bank security breach it would blow up by now.

[SmokeyTheBear]

trying to find anything on them , looks like a brand new scam , sounds fishy..

btw while digging i noticed this http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/23138647/detail.html

obviously not you , but i wouldn't go driving through texas lol

[SmokeyTheBear]

look for a common factor..

do you all use ifriends ?

epassporte ach ?

[Vjo]

Well I talked to my bank and I have to go into a branch office, file a fraud report, possibly file a police report and then after due process they will send the check back or whatever they do. They said with checks it is not as easy as just sending it back like it is with a electronic check or debit. And yes they said this was indeed a check that had been printed out. Which is a real no-no in the banking biz.

They said once this happens you have to chg accts (obviously) as they often start with a low amount and then if things go thru they may up the amount on the next fraudulent check.

Problem is I have lots of debits coming out (utilities) and payments coming in (sponsor payments) but they can prob still use my old acct number for a while to help facilitate my changing the accts over to a new number.

I pointed out that all they need is your routing and acct numbers and they can forge a check. Not even your name. They agreed and said checks have really become antiquated in today's society.

The good news. They have other acts which will work better for me with less fees so I might save $50 in fees or so for my time. (over the next year)

What a pain. But what are you going to do. Off to the bank. I'll let you know how that goes...

[wig]

Originally Posted by Vjo

And yes they said this was indeed a check that had been printed out. Which is a real no-no in the banking biz.

It's called a bank draft. They are done all the time.

[Vjo]

Well I filled out a fraud report and they set me up a new account. I made a list of upcoming debits (utils) and payments (sponsors) so if they come through on the old acct it'll get pointed to the new account. They also were able to immediately connect my debit card to the new acct.

Actually it was worth it as I have a better acct now with no fees. Bank already credited me for the $29.95 and now they are looking into OWE and Mr Arsenault. They said the acct that deposited the check (OWE) may be Mr Arsenault himself or not. Anyhow looks like OWE will eat the $29.95 as they are the last one going back in the paper trail.

I dont understand exactly why they deposited a check to an acct unless OWE was legitimate as otherwise they would have the fraudster dead to rights. It might also be a "phone check" whatever that is, they said.

Kind of complicated but anyhow that's that. Thanks for everyone's input.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

odd that there isn't much on the web but people got involved in adult got hit?

sounds like an inside job.

maybe some company who has your bank account info?

How many people that had this or a very similar scam had ACH payments for adultcheck? Not saying its them, but its happened to a few webmasters I know who had it.

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

Originally Posted by Vjo

Well I filled out a fraud report and they set me up a new account. I made a list of upcoming debits (utils) and payments (sponsors) so if they come through on the old acct it'll get pointed to the new account. They also were able to immediately connect my debit card to the new acct.

Actually it was worth it as I have a better acct now with no fees. Bank already credited me for the $29.95 and now they are looking into OWE and Mr Arsenault. They said the acct that deposited the check (OWE) may be Mr Arsenault himself or not. Anyhow looks like OWE will eat the $29.95 as they are the last one going back in the paper trail.

I dont understand exactly why they deposited a check to an acct unless OWE was legitimate as otherwise they would have the fraudster dead to rights. It might also be a "phone check" whatever that is, they said.

Kind of complicated but anyhow that's that. Thanks for everyone's input.

I have a lot of transactions going in and out and that's why I haven't closed my account ASAP and disputed the charge, but I'll probably be doing so shortly. What a pain...

It looks like they did this 6 days ago to a select group of people and are probably long gone, but who knows.

Finally, I figured you were Mr. Arsenault, because usually your name goes in that spot? Mine does in the upper left hand side of the check.

[Vjo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo Risin

I have a lot of transactions going in and out and that's why I haven't closed my account ASAP and disputed the charge, but I'll probably be doing so shortly. What a pain...

It looks like they did this 6 days ago to a select group of people and are probably long gone, but who knows.

Finally, I figured you were Mr. Arsenault, because usually your name goes in that spot? Mine does in the upper left hand side of the check.

Nope I'm not Mr. A which made things easier to prove it wasnt me. Yeah, def of a pain but generally went well. Now just have to update all utils, sponsors, ect.

Thankfully my banking is fairly simple without too many tarnsactions and they gave me a couple week buffer to get things updated.

[DirtyDanza]

I know exactly what is going on ...... I would be happy to explain... everyone knows my skype and icq number....


well not who but what they are doing I know

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I know exactly what is going on ...... I would be happy to explain... everyone knows my skype and icq number....


well not who but what they are doing I know

spill it.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I know exactly what is going on ...... I would be happy to explain... everyone knows my skype and icq number....


well not who but what they are doing I know

i hate when they do that...

[Vjo]

I only write one check a month (housing payment) which I deliver myself so pretty sure it was compromised online so the only place who has my info is sponsors. But who knows maybe they got it years back.

DD, it doesnt matter to me anymore but some other people might want to hear how the scam works. Actually I would love to know but I am not going to pursue it any more.

Originally Posted by Choker

I've never entered my personal banking account numbers on any computer. And I have never given this account number to any sponsor. Sponsors have my business account naumbers, but this electronic payment was on my personal bank account. So its not a sponsor.

OK that is good news so maybe it is not a sponsor. Must of got mine a couple years ago. Like I said the acct was compromised a couple years back one time as well. So at least they dont seem to want to hammer ya.

[Simon]

I remembered seeing this thread when I looked at my online banking admin today and saw that Online World Entertainment has presented one of those $29.95 echecks or drafts against my account yesterday. Called my bank and they're looking into it.

[marlboroack]

I hate writing checks so much..

[SmokeyTheBear]

only gfy members get hit .. sounds doubtfull , the random chances of several gfy members getting hit and it NOT being something to do with online, is near impossible..

look for similarities..

do you use IFRIENDS vjo ?

epass ? paxum ? payoneer ? paypal ?

[SmokeyTheBear]

just noticed a fresh post from another victim on a diff forum..

bank says it is for wrestling pay-per-view.

victim thinks the pizza delivery guy stole his number

the other connection is GOLD.. he used checks to buy gold online , i know choker likes gold.. any other victims watch wrestling , buy gold or order pizza with checks ?

[blackout]

They got me too yesterday... I started another thread and someone referred me over to this one.

You think epass went under and then decided to scam everyone? I switched to Paxum after the epass-fail.

I would say that most people on this board had epass before, correct?

[V_RocKs]

Whom ever is doing it, they did it tooo much... now they going to jail and fines... so sad....

[Choker]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

just noticed a fresh post from another victim on a diff forum..

bank says it is for wrestling pay-per-view.

victim thinks the pizza delivery guy stole his number

the other connection is GOLD.. he used checks to buy gold online , i know choker likes gold.. any other victims watch wrestling , buy gold or order pizza with checks ?

Not for me, it is possible that I used this personal account many years ago when epassporte first started to upload funds to it.That was what 8 years ago?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Choker

Not for me, it is possible that I used this personal account many years ago when epassporte first started to upload funds to it.That was what 8 years ago?

just seems very coincidental that half dozen people get hit within a few days , all but one from gfy. Theres some adult connection here..

[The Heron]

I just got hit, exact same except they used my bank name and [email protected] is stamped above the memo...

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

maybe there are cross-sales on your utility bills.

[SmokeyTheBear]

looks like theres some connection to the following sites..

metalcash
adultstarprofits
megablackpass

megablackpass has the same details as wonderlandtechnology " found on check above )
these are on same server as adultstarprofits.com whois leads to metalcash