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Old 08-04-2011, 12:20 PM   #1
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Plumbing work sucks. Glad I am not a plumber

Earlier this week I got a water leak under my house. I call a buddy of mine who is a plumber and he comes to check it out. He tells me that the a bunch of the pipes under my house are made from this old crappy material that they no longer even sell (house was built in the early 80's) and they are getting brittle which makes them very hard to repair. So he tells me that very soon I will have to replace them and we decide to do it this week. Might as well do it now than play the game of chase the leak.

So I have spent much of this week under my house while we rip out old pipe and put in new. You don't know how much you miss running water until you don't have it and working under a house is not fun. Plumbing work is a pain in the ass. I am very happy I never considered that as a career.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:23 PM   #2
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you should call my plumber...

he's really good at what he does, or at least thats what my gf says...









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Old 08-04-2011, 12:24 PM   #3
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plumbers around me make anywhere from 35 to 75 an hour... goes up if it's a messy job with hazards, goes up if its after hours... Kind of gross work at times but they make a killing so I guess that's why they do it.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:26 PM   #4
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:32 PM   #5
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plumbers around me make anywhere from 35 to 75 an hour... goes up if it's a messy job with hazards, goes up if its after hours... Kind of gross work at times but they make a killing so I guess that's why they do it.
My buddy started out as an apprentice with a bigger plumbing company then after about ten years he and another guy decided to go into business for themselves and he does well for himself. When they show up at your house they basically bill you $75 just for walking in the door and seeing what the problem is. Even if all you have is a clogged toilet that takes them five minutes to fix they charge $75for it and like you say if it is messy or difficult the rate goes up. He spent about 10 hours with me under my house this week. Had he been billing me it would have likely cost a few grand at least. If you don't mind the work you can make some nice money.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:34 PM   #6
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you should call my plumber...

he's really good at what he does, or at least thats what my gf says...









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This guy appears to have just the right tool for the job. Do you have plumbing issues often that has him out to "service" your GF? LOL
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:35 PM   #7
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you should call my plumber...

he's really good at what he does, or at least thats what my gf says...









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I've done some plumbing, but commercial mostly, the pipes are thicker
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:14 PM   #10
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This guy appears to have just the right tool for the job. Do you have plumbing issues often that has him out to "service" your GF? LOL
well i found that picture on her phone and what had happened was he went to grab a wrench in his pocket and accidentally grabbed his dick..

it's actually a pretty funny story the way my gf tells it.. she said he was really embarrassed..

and to answer your question, i must have really bad plumbing in my house because he has to come out at least 3 times a week to fix stuff.. its a good thing my gf is home all day, so i dont have to miss work...





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Old 08-04-2011, 01:19 PM   #11
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well i found that picture on her phone and what had happened was he went to grab a wrench in his pocket and accidentally grabbed his dick..

it's actually a pretty funny story the way my gf tells it.. she said he was really embarrassed..

and to answer your question, i must have really bad plumbing in my house because he has to come out at least 3 times a week to fix stuff.. its a good thing my gf is home all day, so i dont have to miss work...





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But the real question is when he accidentally grabbed his dick and it accidentally then fell out of his pants did she use her mouth to help him put it away so he could focus on the job at hand?

It is also very nice of her to stay home and take care of the needs of the house while you are at work all day. She is very caring, and I would imagine giving, person!
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But the real question is when he accidentally grabbed his dick and it accidentally then fell out of his pants did she use her mouth to help him put it away so he could focus on the job at hand?
no, what do you take her for, some kind of whore?





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Old 08-04-2011, 01:47 PM   #13
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LOL. I didn't mean to offend. She is clearly a wholesome, morally strict lady who has nothing but pure thoughts in her heart
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But you don't remember the name of the material?

What did it look like, in terms of color and size? Was it flexible or rigid?
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But you don't remember the name of the material?

What did it look like, in terms of color and size? Was it flexible or rigid?
It was...oddly enough... a little of both. It was rigid but did have a little bend to it almost like it was heavy duty hose only it was made out of plastic. It was a light gray color and smooth to the touch. If you looked at it you would think it was gray PVC, but when you touch it it has a softer feel to it.

He told me the idea of it is good, but the problem with that product is that as it gets hot and cold throughout the seasons it gets very brittle and leaks pretty badly.
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It was...oddly enough... a little of both. It was rigid but did have a little bend to it almost like it was heavy duty hose only it was made out of plastic. It was a light gray color and smooth to the touch. If you looked at it you would think it was gray PVC, but when you touch it it has a softer feel to it.

He told me the idea of it is good, but the problem with that product is that as it gets hot and cold throughout the seasons it gets very brittle and leaks pretty badly.
Polybutylene.

Where did the leaks start, did you find out? Was it the connectors, or did the pipe itself start to crack?

What general part of the country do you live in? ahhh, portland - hmmm - so not brutally hot. Did you get a ton of freezes?

Polybutylene has both good points and bad points. I've seen it last "forever" - as in, not fail at all, and it's still sold here fairly heavily. But, it's not used as much as it once was, especially in new construction, because the connectors cant take the stresses that the pipe itself can take.

What did you replace it with?

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Polybutylene.

Where did the leaks start, did you find out? Was it the connectors, or did the pipe itself start to crack?

What general part of the country do you live in? ahhh, portland - hmmm - so not brutally hot. Did you get a ton of freezes?

Polybutylene has both good points and bad points. I've seen it last "forever" - as in, not fail at all, and it's still sold here fairly heavily. But, it's not used as much as it once was, especially in new construction, because the connectors cant take the stresses that the pipe itself can take.

What did you replace it with?
yeah it was a T connector that failed. I found it pretty quick. The house has two bathrooms and in one I could hear running water one morning. It was coming from under the toilet. I got under the house and could see where the water was leaking from. It broke right were it connected to the T. The T sent the line up to be the fill for the toilet. We replaced it with straight PVC which my buddy said will have a good lifespan and was pretty fairly priced.

Our weather isn't too horrible here. We have a few weeks where it is very cold and a few weeks where it is very hot, but mostly it is mild. I would assume the stuff was original so it was getting close to being 30 years old.
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I might have just replaced the connector - the new connectors are a bit better designed than the ones they used when this stuff first came out.

It's a mechanical friction connection, so especially if it wasn't done with the right spacing by the original installer, it can pull loose. The plumbing expands and contracts with temp changes and use, and the pipe itself slowly works loose from the metal clip that holds it in the friction connector.

But a lot of people do replace it. Keep an eye on the replacement when winter comes, and keep some of that diameter pvc, couplings, and cement around in case the new stuff catches a freeze. Polybutylene was used a lot in plumbing subject to occassional freeze.
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Earlier this week I got a water leak under my house. I call a buddy of mine who is a plumber and he comes to check it out. He tells me that the a bunch of the pipes under my house are made from this old crappy material that they no longer even sell (house was built in the early 80's) and they are getting brittle which makes them very hard to repair. So he tells me that very soon I will have to replace them and we decide to do it this week. Might as well do it now than play the game of chase the leak.

So I have spent much of this week under my house while we rip out old pipe and put in new. You don't know how much you miss running water until you don't have it and working under a house is not fun. Plumbing work is a pain in the ass. I am very happy I never considered that as a career.
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