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Old 10-03-2011, 12:56 PM   #1
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:stop Amanda Knox, found NOT GUILTY !!!!!

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Italy setting the judicial bar REALLY high.
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Looks to be 2nd only to the Greek Bailout
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The thing about her not being able to leave because her passport expired is crazy. Um, expedite.
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4 years of rotting in jail, prosecutor is a joke.
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4 years of rotting in jail, prosecutor is a joke.
Minimum she was an accessory to murder.
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Minimum she was an accessory to murder.
Zero proof of this whatsoever, the independent study ruled there was no dna or physical evidence linking her to the crime scene. The computer hard drive that could have backed up Amanda and Rafael's alibi was mysteriously destroyed by the police/prosecution. They have the man in prison who had his dna found all over the crime scene.
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Zero proof of this whatsoever, the independent study ruled there was no dna or physical evidence linking her to the crime scene. The computer hard drive that could have backed up Amanda and Rafael's alibi was mysteriously destroyed by the police/prosecution. They have the man in prison who had his dna found all over the crime scene.
She waited outside a shop for it to open to buy 2 bottles of bleach after the killing in the early hours of the morning. Co-incidence or does she just like to give the house a serious clean early in the morning?
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She waited outside a shop for it to open to buy 2 bottles of bleach after the killing in the early hours of the morning. Co-incidence or does she just like to give the house a serious clean early in the morning?
Once again, you prove how gullible you are and have fallen for the media's lies. Amanda and Rafael never purchased bleach, there are no receipts of them doing so and the store owner where they were alleged to have bought it from, admitted they never came in the store. This was something made up by one media outlet and it got spread around by gullible people like you. Nothing was ever presented in trial with respect to this.
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4 years of rotting in jail, prosecutor is a joke.
Amazing how someone's life can get completely fucked over like that (and this is mild obviously compared to how some people have been fucked in the past).
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Once again, you prove how gullible you are and have fallen for the media's lies. Amanda and Rafael never purchased bleach, there are no receipts of them doing so and the store owner where they were alleged to have bought it from, admitted they never came in the store. This was something made up by one media outlet and it got spread around by gullible people like you. Nothing was ever presented in trial with respect to this.

You are watching it from America and I am watching it from Europe. Here it is pro hang the bitch over there I would presume it is Free Knox.
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WRONG !! She was never found "not guilty" she was found "GUILTY" but on appeal the verdict was overturned BECAUSE the way the Italian police collected forensic evidence "COULD" (and note the word COULD not DID) have led to cross contamination of DNA.
All I would say is if somebody is murdered at the place you live and one day you say you sat in another room with your hands over your ears listening to your boss kill your friend and later change your story and say you were never there at all.....?!?!?
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You were about 5 minutes late with your spectacular news that everyone already knew about.
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Really ????? pls check post times
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Really ????? pls check post times
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1040293

Andrew R's post in this thread was at 3:49 exactly after the verdict was read live. Five minutes might as well be be 5 months...

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WRONG !! She was never found "not guilty" she was found "GUILTY" but on appeal the verdict was overturned BECAUSE the way the Italian police collected forensic evidence "COULD" (and note the word COULD not DID) have led to cross contamination of DNA.
All I would say is if somebody is murdered at the place you live and one day you say you sat in another room with your hands over your ears listening to your boss kill your friend and later change your story and say you were never there at all.....?!?!?
so a lot of anti-Americanism

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You are watching it from America and I am watching it from Europe. Here it is pro hang the bitch over there I would presume it is Free Knox.
You're a bit behind, sure a year ago it was hang the bitch in Europe, but the latest polls in Europe now show overwhelmingly that people think she is innocent, including even Perugia/Florence.
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Are you fucking stupid ? Where did I mention the fact that she was American ? It's exactly that insular "American" (she must be innocent because she is American) view that is the problem. She's guilty IMHO because of the reasons I stated. If you want to turn it into an Anti-American thing, you aren't helping her, you're actually helping to make people realise that support for her is not about her guilt or innocence but is a patriotic thing, which says more about the American justice system than is does the Italian !
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You need to understand that this wasn't a retrial, it was an appeal, they are very different entities. Knox has never been found not guilty and neither has Solicetto (for fear that I appear anti-American).............LOL and you wonder why Muslims might have a problem with the US when you can't even comment on a murder case without being accused of being racist !!
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WRONG !! She was never found "not guilty" she was found "GUILTY" but on appeal the verdict was overturned BECAUSE the way the Italian police collected forensic evidence "COULD" (and note the word COULD not DID) have led to cross contamination of DNA.
All I would say is if somebody is murdered at the place you live and one day you say you sat in another room with your hands over your ears listening to your boss kill your friend and later change your story and say you were never there at all.....?!?!?
She wasn't freed because of possible cross contamination, but rather because none of the dna/physical evidence linked Amanda to the crime scene after an independent group reviewed all of the evidence. Also, they were able to eventually link all of the physical evidence to Rudy Guede who was convicted and is now serving 16 years for the murder. At that point, any other judicial system would have freed her and admitted a mistake. Instead you have a prosecutor who didn't want to be embarrassed and tried to save face by continuing to prosecute her on zero hard evidence. Her pointing the finger at Patrick initially was at the end of 14 hours of interrogation with no attorney and she was told she would never be able to leave unless she pointed the finger at someone.
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Are you fucking stupid ? Where did I mention the fact that she was American ? It's exactly that insular "American" (she must be innocent because she is American) view that is the problem. She's guilty IMHO because of the reasons I stated. If you want to turn it into an Anti-American thing, you aren't helping her, you're actually helping to make people realise that support for her is not about her guilt or innocence but is a patriotic thing, which says more about the American justice system than is does the Italian !
You never stated any reasons for her guilt.
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You need to understand that this wasn't a retrial, it was an appeal, they are very different entities. Knox has never been found not guilty and neither has Solicetto (for fear that I appear anti-American).............LOL and you wonder why Muslims might have a problem with the US when you can't even comment on a murder case without being accused of being racist !!
Lol, where did he accuse you of being racist? I think he was merely going by your nick and assuming you weren't from the US.
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"Her pointing the finger at Patrick initially was at the end of 14 hours of interrogation with no attorney and she was told she would never be able to leave unless she pointed the finger at someone."

I don't believe that, prove it or shut the fuck up. Either she was at the place or she wasn't....full stop. If she really wasn't what would possess her to say she was and make up such a ridiculous story. I think we have a case here of a superior defence legal team running rings around a semi competent Italian legal system. I think most people with common sense can see the wood for the trees.
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Are you fucking stupid ? Where did I mention the fact that she was American ? It's exactly that insular "American" (she must be innocent because she is American) view that is the problem. She's guilty IMHO because of the reasons I stated. If you want to turn it into an Anti-American thing, you aren't helping her, you're actually helping to make people realise that support for her is not about her guilt or innocence but is a patriotic thing, which says more about the American justice system than is does the Italian !
inevitably the answer is yes, but your response betrays even a greater anti-americanism than your original statements of why you felt she was guilty

i am canadian, i don't care beyond the idea that italy represents 'here be dragons'
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You never stated any reasons for her guilt.
I believe she is guilty because she has NEVER been found not guilty )

"WRONG !! She was never found "not guilty" she was found "GUILTY" but on appeal the verdict was overturned BECAUSE the way the Italian police collected forensic evidence "COULD" (and note the word COULD not DID) have led to cross contamination of DNA.
All I would say is if somebody is murdered at the place you live and one day you say you sat in another room with your hands over your ears listening to your boss kill your friend and later change your story and say you were never there at all.....?!?!?"
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on a sole basis of destroyed evidence and failure to secure a time of death, it's crazy they even managed to find the person actually guilty

i am very curious on how/why the 'at the time'-accused fingered a club owner

i suppose it's a bit racist, but i am under the impression that involves organized crime
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I wasnt being anti-american I was being factual. Press native to each country tends to support their countrymen.

That is not anti-american that is fact.
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OK clearly if you have the letters UK in your username and think Amanda Knox is guilty you are anti-American. Guess I must be guilty of that charge
Such a shame that your bar is sooooooo much lower than the court in Perugia that originally found Amanda Knox guilty of murder ?!?! Oh well I must have hit a nerve.
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That is not anti-american that is fact.
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"Her pointing the finger at Patrick initially was at the end of 14 hours of interrogation with no attorney and she was told she would never be able to leave unless she pointed the finger at someone."

I don't believe that, prove it or shut the fuck up. Either she was at the place or she wasn't....full stop. If she really wasn't what would possess her to say she was and make up such a ridiculous story. I think we have a case here of a superior defence legal team running rings around a semi competent Italian legal system. I think most people with common sense can see the wood for the trees.

You need to reacquaint yourself with the case, she and Rafael claimed she was never at her place during the time of the murder, but rather they were watching a movie on his laptop at his place. The hard drive to his laptop was mysteriously destroyed by the prosecution/police, which could have at least corroborated their story. The 14 hours of interrogation by police with no attorney present was documented by the police, did you want me to get the police report to prove it to you?
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OK clearly if you have the letters UK in your username and think Amanda Knox is guilty you are anti-American. Guess I must be guilty of that charge
Such a shame that your bar is sooooooo much lower than the court in Perugia that originally found Amanda Knox guilty of murder ?!?! Oh well I must have hit a nerve.
i can tell you several different reasons why the investigation and and evidence was fubar by reading one rather long article.

meaning i must assuming you heard 'american', 'sex orgy', then thought 'guilty'.

perhaps i have hit a nerve, and 'anti-americanism' means something greater in europe than it does for the rest of the civilized world.
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I wasnt being anti-american I was being factual. Press native to each country tends to support their countrymen.

That is not anti-american that is fact.
No, that's your opinion, the lastest poll in Perugia/Florence now has over 80% feeling she was wrongly initially convicted and is innocent, a complete turnaround from before the physical evidence results were released by the independent study.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:52 PM   #41
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You need to reacquaint yourself with the case, she and Rafael claimed she was never at her place during the time of the murder, but rather they were watching a movie on his laptop at his place. The hard drive to his laptop was mysteriously destroyed by the prosecution/police, which could have at least corroborated their story. The 14 hours of interrogation by police with no attorney present was documented by the police, did you want me to get the police report to prove it to you?
I don't believe that, prove it or shut the fuck up. Either she was at the place or she wasn't....full stop. If she really wasn't what would possess her to say she was and make up such a ridiculous story. I think we have a case here of a superior defence legal team running rings around a semi competent Italian legal system. I think most people with common sense can see the wood for the trees.
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i can tell you several different reasons why the investigation and and evidence was fubar by reading one rather long article.

meaning i must assuming you heard 'american', 'sex orgy', then thought 'guilty'.

perhaps i have hit a nerve, and 'anti-americanism' means something greater in europe than it does for the rest of the civilized world.
You can't even string a coherent sentence together.
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I don't believe that, prove it or shut the fuck up. Either she was at the place or she wasn't....full stop. If she really wasn't what would possess her to say she was and make up such a ridiculous story. I think we have a case here of a superior defence legal team running rings around a semi competent Italian legal system. I think most people with common sense can see the wood for the trees.
buddy had an apartment by himself

would you stay at ur gfs house with 2+ roommates?

story appears to be plumbing issues and they had gone to her home to shower.. something easily proven yet there seems to be no further mention of that
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I believe she is guilty because she has NEVER been found not guilty )

"WRONG !! She was never found "not guilty" she was found "GUILTY" but on appeal the verdict was overturned BECAUSE the way the Italian police collected forensic evidence "COULD" (and note the word COULD not DID) have led to cross contamination of DNA.
All I would say is if somebody is murdered at the place you live and one day you say you sat in another room with your hands over your ears listening to your boss kill your friend and later change your story and say you were never there at all.....?!?!?"
Contamination or no contamination, every dna expert has come forward and said it would have been impossible for Amanda to have killed the victim in a violent struggle and left no physical evidence on the scene, no dna, no fingerprints, no hair fibers, nothing. Instead they find all kinds of evidence pointing to Rudy Guede, he was found guilty and is in prison, there is your murderer.
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Fucking hell I'm a right wing anti-European but suddenly Brussels looks really appealing
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You need to understand that this wasn't a retrial, it was an appeal, they are very different entities. Knox has never been found not guilty and neither has Solicetto (for fear that I appear anti-American).............LOL and you wonder why Muslims might have a problem with the US when you can't even comment on a murder case without being accused of being racist !!

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"the reference used by attorneys and law students in the U.S"

It was Italy/Europe, NOT the USA, the investigation will continue, when Solicitto grows some balls and realises Knox wants nothing to do with him, he'll spill the beans
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Please quote me where the judge said she ......."she was not guilty" and/or "acquitted"
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