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Old 10-20-2011, 05:17 AM   #1
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Gadaffi has been killed!!

http://english.aljazeera.net/


It's about fucking time!!!
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Lets all congratulate the US forces for reducing yet another country to a war torn shit hole.

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Old 10-20-2011, 05:33 AM   #5
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Another victory for the Zionist new world order agenda.
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Libyan forces 'capture Gaddafi'

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hey thats great, just wait until the religious nut jobs take over and the real blood begins to spill.

another scam, another gaping wound in the middle east.
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He's still alive on the BBC
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Lets all congratulate the US forces for reducing yet another country to a war torn shit hole.

Ummm .... it was the Lybian people who forced this regime change ... LOL
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Is it good or bad news? For you personally?
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Ummm .... it was the Lybian people who forced this regime change ... LOL
That's right, a big LOL over the "Libyan people"!

European parents, are your children tired of Afghani H? Expect a new sort of heroin "Libyan people" soon on your streets and public schools near you. Coming straight from once a richest country in Africa - Libya!
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Ummm .... it was the Lybian people who forced this regime change ... LOL
As far as I heard a lot of the US citizens are also want to change the regime in their country. Should NATO and other military blocks help the US people to overthrow their government? Need some "democratizing" bombing or what?
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Ummm .... it was the Lybian people who forced this regime change ... LOL
I would be more than willing to bet the CIA had a big hand in getting it started. Giving money for more weapons and giving out intel so they could take the regular citizens and march as an army across the country like they did.
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He's been dead years, just like Mr Laden was. The Gadaffi that you know and love was just an american civil servant in a Bo Selecta mask.
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Meanwhile in Libya...















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let's wait

Since his son was killed at least three times, captured dressed like a women and town of Sirte is conquered at least 6 times, (and it was all complete lie), let's wait for some time.

http://libyasos.blogspot.com/p/news.html
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so now we can take care of other tyrants and killers, such as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Blair ?
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Care to explain?

BTW "holier-than-thou attitudes" sounds a bit moronic. Russians don't invade other countries to "democratize" and "help" their people overthrowing the governments in exchange for oil. I can't say we are "holier" but we definitely much more honest about it
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I love native English speakers who don't understand a word of Russian commenting on Russia being a police state.
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As far as I heard a lot of the US citizens are also want to change the regime in their country. Should NATO and other military blocks help the US people to overthrow their government? Need some "democratizing" bombing or what?

Libya could vote every 4 years?
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Is it really important? People get killed, I don't give a fuck who the president is. Democracy is overrated.
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Maybe Saudi Arabia could? As far as I remember there were direct elections in Iraq but it doesn't help... Sorry, but I didn't get your question. Why have you asked it?
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Maybe Saudi Arabia could? As far as I remember there were direct elections in Iraq but it doesn't help... Sorry, but I didn't get your question. Why have you asked it?
Exactly.

And? Who said that "democracy" (that we can see on photos you posted above) is best choice for all people? What kind of stupidity and arrogance people must have to believe that "western democracy" is something that is so good. It is shit, non existing concept and most important of all is that we are talking here about completely different culture and way of thinking. Libyans were always in fights between themselves until Gadafi , because they are still separated into tribes.Yes, tribes...and that's their right, and their history. Just imagine that now some Libyans come in USA and force you accept their way of life and their beliefs. (to force all women to go masked, pray on the streets and hundreds different things). Of course, Libya was liberal, Gadafi is a person that even shoted on mosques when terrorists were there hiding and shooting.....why I am typing all this when we all know that this is invasion, and robbery of other countries natural wealth.
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Maybe Saudi Arabia could? As far as I remember there were direct elections in Iraq but it doesn't help... Sorry, but I didn't get your question. Why have you asked it?


I was being sarcastic, the U.S. is a different situation where they have the chance to change their "regime" every 4 years. Libya did not. I am not for or against democracy in these countries because I am Canadian and will not pretend to understand or know what life in these countries is like. I mind my own business like the U.S. should do unless asked for help on a good cause. My response to you was strictly on the topic of NATO bringing in military forces to help overthrow U.S. governments, which I personally did not see your point.
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Now another dictator will assume power for another 40 years.
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And? Who said that "democracy" (that we can see on photos you posted above) is best choice for all people? What kind of stupidity and arrogance people must have to believe that "western democracy" is something that is so good. It is shit, non existing concept and most important of all is that we are talking here about completely different culture and way of thinking. Libyans were always in fights between themselves until Gadafi , because they are still separated into tribes.Yes, tribes...and that's their right, and their history. Just imagine that now some Libyans come in USA and force you accept their way of life and their beliefs. (to force all women to go masked, pray on the streets and hundreds different things). Of course, Libya was liberal, Gadafi is a person that even shoted on mosques when terrorists were there hiding and shooting.....why I am typing all this when we all know that this is invasion, and robbery of other countries natural wealth.

My comment was to the fact that America has a system in place to change their government. I was not promoting democracy, but what are better options than democracy? I am honestly asking and not trying to be a dick, because I have no idea what other governments in the world are working better than democratic systems. This is not a strong topic for me.
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We used to call it sarcasm.
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Democracy is overrated. It's just gives you the ability to choice your puppet. But of course all the puppets are controlled by the same corporate and banking elites.....

And you all think you're in the land of freedom. lol.
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If you are seeking answer to that question, Libya is a perfect example so you can find online about benefits of Libyan people under Gadafi. Also , when debating or trying to understand things like this, it can be hard doing it from country that is completely different (tradition, economics, nature, history...) so you should be open minded if really want to understand problem....and as usually, problem is simple: Oil = money. I would also add some payback, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelus_Air_Base
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I was not promoting democracy, but what are better options than democracy? I am honestly asking and not trying to be a dick, because I have no idea what other governments in the world are working better than democratic systems.
What about dictatorship? I'm not joking actually. Dictatorship or democratic dictatorship is the best in my opinion. Libya was a dictatorship for the last 30 or so years, they had tremendous success, because one man was responsible for everything. Russia has a sort of dictatorship now and look how well we are doing comparing to 10 years ago. Is it really that good to listen to all opinions especially now that everyone has one? Democracy is good when you don't want to go anywhere, if you need progress you need dictatorship.
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Yeah, random youtube videos created by anonymous users, overlaid with drum and bass soundtracks are always a credible source of information.



We live in the information age, it doesn't take long to gather some semblance of truth on the situation. Vice actually went to Libya and did a pretty good gonzo documentary on the whole situation:

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/the-re...ya-full-length


The thing is the West was better off with brutal dictators like Gadaffi in power. Now what? A stable democratic successor regime? An Islamic government? A combination of the two? Or a failed state? The last option probably is the most likely, which means either a long-term Western occupation ? which would spur an Islamist insurgency ? or a quick Western get-the-fuck-out which would leave Libya to the best organized portion of the resistance, the Islamists. (NB: Hows that for a lose-lose situation?)


Both of these bad options are in the future and so remain avoidable. But the West already has suffered an enormous loss by choosing to try to destroy Gaddafi?s regime, which the Wikileaks? documents show was an anchor of the West?s counter-al-Qaeda efforts in the Maghreb.
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Yeah, random youtube videos created by anonymous users, overlaid with drum and bass soundtracks are always a credible source of information.
I find these videos a good way to get people to pay attention, especially people who wouldn't normally spend time reading documents that I link to, however if one opens the video on YouTube there are many links posted with it. On a personal level I was already aware of everything mentioned in the video beforehand

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Some of what I have found out about Libya & Muammar Al Qaddafi since the brutal, illegal invasion of Libya by Rothschild owned NATO forces.

Not only have I learnt that Qaddafi is NOT a dictator (he stood down after setting up direct democracy) but his people have something to teach us about freedom & independence!

I ask all reading this to do whatever they can to oppose the New World Order, NATO, the UN & our corrupt politicians.

Please read Qaddafi's Green Book. Download link:

http://911-truth.net/other-books/Mua...n-Book-Eng.pdf

The draft UN report on human rights in Libya before the NATO bombings & invasion.

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies...-HRC-16-15.pdf

Library Of Congress Country Study Of Libya
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...d(DOCID+ly0067)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...d(DOCID+ly0069)

http://windowstorussia.com/from-russ...-president-of-...

Sherrie's blogspot.
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspo...ibya-watch-thi...

Article by David Rothscum.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle27956.htm

Landdestroyer is another great blog.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/20...-us-state.html

Gagnauga is an Icelandic blog. I have posted the translated link. Please follow.
http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...ttp://gagnauga...

Lizzie Phelan, Independent journalist
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...ree_Tripoli_do...

http://www.voltairenet.org/Witnessin...sition-to-fear

Top 10 Myths In The War Against Libya
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/...-war-against-l...

Another truth Blog. Please support them by following.
http://newsfromatlantis.blogspot.com...-freedom-in-li...

Northwestnationalists blogspot.
http://northwestnationalists.blogspo...t-mad-or-dicta...

The Ones Killing Civilians is NATO
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...illing_nato-0/
DJOsiris Blog
http://djosiris.blogspot.com/search?...A09%3A00-07%3A...

The real reason for NATO attacking Libya
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O35_Ai6EsMU

http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.com/20...affidavit.html

NATO Crimes & Mass Media lies exposed
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3hDejIHc1XI

Libyan Women speak about Gaddafi.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_5EpvO47CUE

Media Lies about Libya & Gaddafi.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=t_ku0rLVdWg

Gaddafi's speech to Libya & the World 1st July 2011 (1/2)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q0XsF03fNM4

Gaddafi's speech 1st July 2011 (2/2)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lEL76Ed0ne4

NATO leaders guilty under US code of providing material support to terrorists by Tony Cartalucci
http://www.infowars.com/nato-leaders...oviding-materi...

Susan Lindauer
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06...imes-in-libya/

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Old 10-20-2011, 07:51 AM   #46
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What about dictatorship? I'm not joking actually. Dictatorship or democratic dictatorship is the best in my opinion. Libya was a dictatorship for the last 30 or so years, they had tremendous success, because one man was responsible for everything. Russia has a sort of dictatorship now and look how well we are doing comparing to 10 years ago. Is it really that good to listen to all opinions especially now that everyone has one? Democracy is good when you don't want to go anywhere, if you need progress you need dictatorship.
There's a lot of truth to what you are saying.

One problem with "modern" democracy is that people vote for their own selfish self interest not what's good for the country as a whole.

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I find these videos a good way to get people to pay attention, especially people who wouldn't normally spend time reading documents that I link to, however if one opens the video on YouTube there are many links posted with it. On a personal level I was already aware of everything mentioned in the video beforehand

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Some of what I have found out about Libya & Muammar Al Qaddafi since the brutal, illegal invasion of Libya by Rothschild owned NATO forces.

Not only have I learnt that Qaddafi is NOT a dictator (he stood down after setting up direct democracy) but his people have something to teach us about freedom
Now there is no doubt that some of Gaddafi?s forces are hired guns from outside Libya, but it seems increasingly clear that he has had a significant number of Libyans who are willing to fight to the death for him. Given this truism ? and the fight-to-the-death approach of pro-Gaddafi forces ? it seems that our policymakers have chosen sides in Libya between groups of Libyans, and not between all democracy-loving Libyans and Gaddafi, his sons, and some non-Libyan mercenaries. But don't believe for a second that Gadaffi wasn't a brutal dictator, and that this is all some elaborate conspiracy designed by NATO to topple the regime. The uprising wasn't orchestrated by Western powers we just chose sides. Watch that Vice documentary and then tell me there is no significant opposition to Gadaffi's regime.
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Now there is no doubt that some of Gaddafi?s forces are hired guns from outside Libya, but it seems increasingly clear that he has had a significant number of Libyans who are willing to fight to the death for him. Given this truism ? and the fight-to-the-death approach of pro-Gaddafi forces ? it seems that our policymakers have chosen sides in Libya between groups of Libyans, and not between all democracy-loving Libyans and Gaddafi, his sons, and some non-Libyan mercenaries. But don't believe for a second that Gadaffi wasn't a brutal dictator, and that this is all some elaborate conspiracy designed by NATO to topple the regime. The uprising wasn't orchestrated by Western powers we just chose sides. Watch that Vice documentary and then tell me there is no significant opposition to Gadaffi's regime.
I will watch the documentary and check it out in the next few days

My issues would be the evidence that the mainstream news were using footage from film studios with actors pretending to be Libyans and also the 1000's of fake YouTube/Twitter accounts that suddenly appeared out of the blue telling nasty stories, despite the fact that YouTube was blocked in Libya.


The BBC thinks it's normal for Libyan's to be waving Indian flags

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