Printing Money

[Max Potential]

I posted what's below in another thread, but get the feeling its getting lost so I thought I might try it on its own...

I know I for sure don't play on the same levels as most of the guys here on gfy do, nor do I come at adult stuff in the same way at all. But why/whatever happened to the idea of selling collectible porn and why is it that the adult entertainment industry as a whole seems to have bailed on it? Why not take some of the photographs that you content producers shoot and make them available as a physical collectible to visitors/members of your sites or just collectors in general? Much less why not sell them autographs of some of these up and coming stars/models, even personalized. The cost of production on stuff like this is almost nominal anymore if you produce even small quantities, and the return/profit margin could be quite large.

Actual tangible, physical things that these guys you are trying to constantly get to pay you money might be more had/kept if they actually had something to show for it as time went on. I know Playboy is still doing it and making bank and now the Japanese are doing it big time with their Juicy Honey and Milky Angel products, and Benchwarmer, don't even get me started (remember, this is the guy that was recently on Millionaire Matchmaker). Why not some of these other big companies, or even the smaller content producers. There really is a market there, and as I see it, it is starting to grow again, not get smaller.

I know I personally have never paid for a single bit of porn on a pay site, ever. And I honestly don't know why I would ever need or want to when there is SO MUCH out there for free. Pretty much any girl that has a name has her pictures splattered all over the web in free pics, or on tubes for free also. I know there is also somewhat of a 'black market' for printed photographs and I also know that new companies like AdultTradingCardCompany.com are starting to emerge and their products are being pimped pretty well. But the adult market at large seems so untapped.

I am not trying to rile up anything at all nor create any kind of controversy at all either, its just an honest question that I pose.

I have been dealing with the collectibles market for a long time now. It started for me looking for new ideas/places to expand my own art into (Now I sometimes sell more dollar value in pictures of my art on collectible cards, than I do for the original paintings themselves). I discovered what are called non-sport trading cards first, which led then to the discovery of the adult trading cards. Since then I have met and discussed this with many hundreds, if not literally thousands of people. Most of the adult card collectors I have discussed it with think that it is because online porn has replaced this, but are still baffled as to why modern companies are not taking advantage of the concept of 'printing money' and producing porn collectibles at large. Most of the guys I know that 'collect' porn, do it with tangible products, and get their online porn for free too.

When I say collectibles, downloadable pictures definitely do not count, nor would fansigns or dvd, vhs videos or otherwise. Collectibles, at least in the market that I know, would be things in which they make collectible 'Storage Products'. ONE of the main reasons that baseball cards (and nonsport cards and adult cards for that matter) are so popular as a collectible (and comics too) is because there is a MASSIVE industry behind them that product collectible storage products specifically for these type of items. You would be amazed at the array of types of things that are manufactured to store trading card size items (exactly 2.5" x 3.5") in, as well as photographs too. There are archival storage pages made for everysize paper/cardboard collectible you can imagine, from postage stamp size to 8.5x11 letter paper size and probably 25 different sizes in between. There are also even large storage items for larger things like large prints and posters. But my original point is, why is this industry not 'Printing Money' to fill all these things?

I'd really love some intelligent thoughts (I know, I know, this is GFY ).

[DBS.US]

I hate to ship items, I still have nightmares about packing and shipping hundreds of adult DVDS from years ago

[Max Potential]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

I hate to ship items, I still have nightmares about packing and shipping hundreds of adult DVDS from years ago

I agree to some extent, shipping can be a pain in the ass. But that part of the business is something we ourselves have gotten down to a pretty good science. Organization is key and since 99% of our business is paid for with PayPal anymore on all of our sites and printing the shipping airbills is done there, it makes it a whole lot easier.

[marlboroack]

You are a very smart individual, my friend.

[Max Potential]

Originally Posted by marlboroack

You are a very smart individual, my friend.

That might be debatable, unless of course you are talking to DBS

[pornguy]

I can see it now.

Woman cleaning under the mattress of the bed and comes across an envelope marked base ball trading cards. Opens it up to find cards with photos of our shemales naked. Or glossy 8x10's. Something tells me this is not going to go very far. at least for us.

Its one of the reasons Magazines dont sell like they used to. There is a HUGE lack of privacy for the " Reader "

[Max Potential]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I can see it now.

Woman cleaning under the mattress of the bed and comes across an envelope marked base ball trading cards. Opens it up to find cards with photos of our shemales naked. Or glossy 8x10's. Something tells me this is not going to go very far. at least for us.

Its one of the reasons Magazines dont sell like they used to. There is a HUGE lack of privacy for the " Reader "

Well, a couple of things...

1. If your photos or 8x10s were to be found under that mattress, then that means your items indeed had to be sold to begin with. What happens after that is not something that is in your control. Same thing would apply to digital pictures or videos too.

2. Magazines, especially the back issues are themselves becoming very collectible again. Take a look at the recent ended listings in just the regular section of ebay for Penthouse mags alone...
http://www.ebay.com/csc/Magazine-Bac...&_sop=13&_sc=1

Magazines, like all collectibles, ride a roller coaster, but sales are solid and continuous and showing signs of steady growth. Production rates on any collectibles do not have to be the 'same as it ever was' in order to be profitable. We are not living in the heyday of the 80's or '90s for sure, but that does not mean there is not considerable profits to be made or that there are not collectors coming into the market every day. The costs of production now are unbelievably low, which does allow for very nice returns on investment.

Though i don't really know anything at all about the shemale market, but the 'babe' & 'porn star' market would be something I know as very viable.

Again, I dont speak of this as a replacement for digital, only as ONE alternative

[CaptainHowdy]

[Operator]

Before Nobody Cared

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

you haven't read a post since 2004...